Retirement savings ....Yikes !

   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #81  
Have just returned from a long road trip and what do I find, this discussion, something I've been hearing on the radio for a couple days. Pretty popular thread, an important discussion IMO and see the comments have stayed pretty clear from politics. :thumbsup: TBN members.

There was a lot more in the annual report that got this topic rolling. All in all not a pretty picture of the financial position of many/most here in the states. Part of the report said >50% of the typ person would have a hard time coming up with $2k to cover an unexpected expense. Not good IMO. Lot of other data in the report.

I've been retired almost 15 yrs, retired at 58, and have been living a modest lifestyle and saving/investing for ~30 yrs. Uncle Sam has rewarded me for living this way in the form of higher taxes. I've also been rewarded by the ability to retire early and feel secure in our financial position. Planing on ones retirement yrs take a lot of planning and effort. You need to be as free of debt as one can, save/invest as much as you can and try to get insurance to cover a lot of things that can come your way in life that comes with a BIG price. Get going, time is your friend. Compounding is wonderful.

There have been a few comments made in this discussion about investing, especially in ones later yrs. I can't agree with what has been said. I'm still investing money. It's all about how that money is invested one should be concerned about. Done properly one can be invested in the market today and still earn a reward on that investment. I have about a doz different investments and when looking at them in a scatter-gram, risk Vs reward with the DJ avg as the benchmark, all but 2 of my investments fall into the quadrant of higher rewards with lower risk than the benchmark. Those couple investments that aren't in that quadrant are very close to it. I do have a very good advisor that charges on a fee for service basis. His income only rises when my income rises. He has an incentive to do well for me. :)

I do know that now that we have to take annual withdrawals from our IRA and the profit we're making on our investments, our SS benefits are fully taxed. Another little reward from Uncle Sam for being financially responsible. Our largest income tax bills have come since my retirement.

Have been debt free for many yrs which has helped. Have always tired to live by the thought if I can't afford the cash price, I can't afford the differed price that includes interest on the loan. That includes the purchase of a newer home a couple yrs back.

Oh, someone asked, how much does one need to retire. I attended a presentation the company offered, those that were 55 or over. During that presentation the speaker mentioned a couple figures. One a Million in assets and the other ~70% of your working income. Have heard those figures from several other sources as well. All I can say is I couldn't envision some of todays cost back then. Energy and medical costs have gone through the roof and something back then one wouldn't have believed.

All I can say is, be debt free at retirement, save/invest wisely beginning at least 20 yrs before you plan on retiring, pay yourself first! And it doesn't hurt to pay real attention to who you vote for and what policies they believe in. That can and does impact your daily life.
 
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   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #82  
There are a bunch of different problems tied up in this retirement thing and as far as I can see none of them can be solved. I have no idea what will happen. I have no idea if someone is trying to make us poor or if we are trying to make ourselves poor but it sure looks like a lot of us are going to be poor.

When I was in high school I used to deliver groceries for the local grocery store. One of our customers was an old couple who lived out behind the lake on the outskirts of town. Their place was small and pretty run down. Seemed like among other things in their order were 5 or 6 cans of alpo but I never saw a dog. Just in case this whole thing works out badly anyone know any good alpo recipes?

Chris

Gosh, I hope they didn't have to wok the dog.
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #83  
Also one good point that my wife made us do years ago.....always have ready access to at LEAST $10,000 in quick cash available for whatever.


Ive done that for many years. Whether a safe deposit box or whatever.
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #85  
Also one good point that my wife made us do years ago.....always have ready access to at LEAST $10,000 in quick cash available for whatever.


Ive done that for many years. Whether a safe deposit box or whatever.

You better keep adding to that pile, as $10k "many years ago" is drastically different than $10k today. Inflation is a way to tax the money you don't do anything with.

Keith
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #86  
Also one good point that my wife made us do years ago.....always have ready access to at LEAST $10,000 in quick cash available for whatever.


Ive done that for many years. Whether a safe deposit box or whatever.

There are those who will argue that if situations are so grim you need to access your stash of cash, paper money really will not be worth the paper it is printed on. While I have more than that 10 grand figure on deposit at my credit union five miles away, it's in a savings account and not readily available. And I have a LOC for $7500 there. It's hard to imagine I would need either but odds are if I did, something would prevent me from being able to access it. I keep no more than a few hundred bucks on me and at home.
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #87  
You better keep adding to that pile, as $10k "many years ago" is drastically different than $10k today. Inflation is a way to tax the money you don't do anything with.

Keith

this is only an emergency fund...to cover short term emergencies...such as huge snow storm, whatever.

only if i cant get to bank or there closed for some internet related reason and such. its just makes sense to have a small emergency pile available. Dont need to go crazy though. generally even if there is a severe storm, things are up and running again in a few days here.
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #88  
There are those who will argue that if situations are so grim you need to access your stash of cash, paper money really will not be worth the paper it is printed on. While I have more than that 10 grand figure on deposit at my credit union five miles away, it's in a savings account and not readily available. And I have a LOC for $7500 there. It's hard to imagine I would need either but odds are if I did, something would prevent me from being able to access it. I keep no more than a few hundred bucks on me and at home.

well im not a doom and gloomer...but what if the banks are closed up for awhile while the govt gets things sorted out...like has happened recently both here and abroad. I have mucho cash available in several different banks, and i dont touch those accounts. but i just like available emergency cash. We had accounts in the old Washington Mutual when the govt siezed it. the money was tied up for a little over a week until the new bank entity was created....was quite nervous for awhile.
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #89  
thjis is only an emergency fund...to cover short term emergencies...such as huge snow storm, whatever.

only if i cant get to bank or there closed for some internet related reason and such. its just makes sense to have a small emergency pile available. Dont need to go crazy though. generally even if there is a severe storm, things are up and running again in a few days here.

What I'm saying is that if you keep a constant amount in your emergency fund, the type of emergency you can handle will dwindle over time due to inflation. For example... Say the house was destroyed in an event that shutdown the banks. You can feed and house your family for $100/day. You have $1000 in cash buried in the back yard. You're good for ten days and hopefully the banks are back online by then so you can access your bank accounts. Fast forward 10 years, inflation means that the exact same food and board is now $150/day. You can only survive six days (and change) on that $1000 in the back yard.

So you either have to realize that each passing year means you can only survive a smaller emergency than the previous year, or you keep adding money to your emergency fund every year. Assuming inflation, which is about like assuming the sun will stay put.

Keith
 
   / Retirement savings ....Yikes ! #90  
Also one good point that my wife made us do years ago.....always have ready access to at LEAST $10,000 in quick cash available for whatever.


Ive done that for many years. Whether a safe deposit box or whatever.

Most financial folks now agree that you should have enough cash in your bank to cover 6 months worth of living expenses should you experience a personal financial catastrophe, like job loss, death of a bread winning spouse, etc....

None of them advocate keeping large sums of cash at home as it is too easy to lose to theft, fire, etc...
 

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