Pacerron,
Re read my post. I am the one that pointed out it is a gable end ( you refer to it as a rake ). A rake is a small protrusion from a wall used for aesthetic purposes. As you install the shingles in a pyramid pattern, 3D shingles get cut/trimmed on both sides of a gable roof edge ( the edge you start on and the one you end on). It can be done as you lay the shingles or can be done with a straight edge after installation. I prefer to lay starter strip along the entire exterior of the roof including fascia and gable ends. The OP can trust my comments. I do not post often but when I do, it is about things I do professionally. I have been in the residential construction business for 30 years and own a company. I believe the OP is getting a quality job from his contractor from what I have read and observed in the pics. My 2 cents
Woody,
I would suggest we not have a war over words. The rake is the protrusion of the roof at the gable end where the facia and drip edge you pictured are installed. The gable end of the house is in fact where the rake is installed for aesthetic purposes and what you show in the picture.
I did not say that 3D shingles did not get trimmed on the gable ends at the end of the rake. I said they are normally cut before nailing to the roof with a tool that is similar to a heavy duty paper cutter so the edge is straight and even with the starter strip that is usually put along the rake edge in a good roofing job. You know that....
The old days of snapping a chalk line and cutting in place, as was often done on the old 3 tab shingle has been replaced by a much neater method. The double layer of material added to the 3D shingle makes it quite difficult to cut them in place compared to using a tool or even laying them on a board and using a straight edge and knife if you can't afford the tool.
If you did post often, you would realize that many times people are righting a reply to a question, as I was last night, and by the time I posted it, you had already posted your reply. These pages do not automatically update as replies are being typed. I apologize for thinking you didn't know one end of a roof from another from your original post.
I realize there are many ways to install roofing trim, some good, some not so good but necessary to make it work and look pretty in the end which is what most homeowners are interested in and have no concept of why something has more potential for a leak than another.,
I had decided not to post why I, in my 2 cents.. don't like what is being done here, and the reasons why, but you ruffled my feathers a bit, which is perfectly fine, so I will post my reasons for others who are getting ready to build so they can compare the arguments for your way versus mine.
A ( T ) top can be formed on a pan brake but the piece that is folded back 180 deg often cracks and comes off. A pan brake formed facia also does not have the stability ridges formed into it that factory made aluminum or vinyl facia have. It depends on the Z and being on a flat surface.
Way back when Eddie Walker asked, where's the drip edge or facia when the felt was first put on is when the work around initiated. When the first row of felt was replaced by the rubber mastic membrane, it still was not installed so the opportunity to nail it to the flake board under the membrane was lost. It still could be glued under the starter strip on top of the membrane after the facia was put on or before and the facia slipped in under it in front.
But, the Z method was chosen, based on some color problem. It still looks like white coil was used in the pictures on my monitor. The drip edge sold by Lowe's and others says the same number is used with white, tan, or cream trim. It's a light gray but light shadowing makes it look the same as the other colors.
The real problem with the end overhangs is that the sheathing was not cut off even with the framing that holds the facia. You can see by the picture used by Woody65 for his explanation that shims the thickness of the sheathing overhang must be being used every 3 feet or so to nail the facia in place while keeping it plumb. Around here that would harbor thousands of bees and Asian Lady Bugs, as well as whistle in the wind.
Pete's house probably has all the facia, soffit, siding, and decking done on it by today, so I am not critising what he got. A lot of you have said you are in the planning stages for a new home and are following this thread to learn the alternate ways things are done so you can choose what you think is best for your construction and area.
When you do get into construction, if you can't drop by the site a couple times a day to see what is going on, it's a good idea to look in the dumpster. You can often tell if things that are now covered up or hard to get to have been done by what you see in there.
A few pictures of the (T) versus Z method for comparison.
Ron
