Operator not in seat

[Notforhire]

This is a JD sub forum - "intelligently designed and implemented" are my working assumptions from elsewhere.

My guess is you won't be buying any JD products in the future?

Safety features on imported equipment are sometimes after thoughts, and not part of the original design. They are installed as required for import to the USA. Look at a grey market tractor sometime.

Bill

 

[megotatractor]

hate the safety seat! can't even lift a cheek for a better view!

 

[Notforhire]

hate the safety seat! can't even lift a cheek for a better view!

The "safety seat" system on my 5055E doesn't kill the engine. There is a buzzer that lets you know that you didn't disengage the PTO, ect. I expect that there is something in the regs. that doesn't require an engine kill over a certain size tractor???

Kubota has a system that allows the PTO to run if the operators seat is flipped up. There must be a timer relay that gives you several seconds to get up, and flip the seat before the engine is killed.
You can get a "better view" with the Kubota system but you better be quick about it.

Bill

 

[nwltruck]

Please protect me so I don't have to think! The world is full of this stuff. ABS and traction control so I don't need to know how to drive. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad MOST people have these things. More and more people need them every day. Jumper the wires and use your head.........

 

[Wagtail]

Spoken like a true OSHA fan. Most interlocks of this nature are lawyer-driven - by the Nanny state and/or corporate lawyers - looking to stay one step ahead of litigious owners. FWIW, there's another "old saw" that says interlocks eventually defeat common sense. Do you not find it ironic that one of the initial steps in competently isolating an electro-mechanical problem is to bypass the associated interlock(s)?

//greg//

Mate, of course I'm a fan of OH&S... And you being USN (Ret) should know that safety interlocks are there for a reason. We're not talking about putting a warning label on peanut butter that it contains nuts. Once an interlock is permanently taken out of the situation then the situation where that interlock was intended is forgotten... and there isn't going to be a crusty old Chief smacking you upside the head to stop you from doing something dumb due to your complacency.

I know that OH&S (or your OSHA) is an 'industry'. People who's job depends on coming up with more safety stuff in order to justify their own existance. One of my postings was at Navy Safety where we'd actually dismantle impractable OH&S because they didn't apply to a Naval or military environment (such as wearing a fluro safety vest in a combat situation so that your own side wouldn't shoot at you :laughing but permanently defeating an interlock in a Gun Fire Control system is an entirely different matter. The same applies to permanently defeating the 'operator not in seat' interlock.

Randy - RAN (Ret)

 

[buickanddeere]

I've always hated this feature because I can't even lift my *** up to scratch it without shutting down.

Try using those wet baby wipes on those tender roids.

 

[greg_g]

Randy - you're using an awful big brush to paint your picture. Please note that I qualified my opinion with the words "interlocks of this nature". NGFS and compact tractor operation are NOT of the same nature.

//greg//

 

[k0ua]

Interesting that my new Kioti does not have the seat interlock. My Kubota's did. You can raise up out of the seat and see the end of your forks better. It does have the start interlock, in that you must be in Neutral range to start the engine.

 

[Notforhire]

Interesting that my new Kioti does not have the seat interlock. My Kubota's did. You can raise up out of the seat and see the end of your forks better. It does have the start interlock, in that you must be in Neutral range to start the engine.

I wonder if the regs. change according to weight class?

 

[Reg]

My guess is you won't be buying any JD products in the future?

Safety features on imported equipment are sometimes after thoughts, and not part of the original design. They are installed as required for import to the USA. Look at a grey market tractor sometime.

Bill

Lets not pretend that JD produces anything much more than the nameplate for any of their li'tul twacktors.
Last time I checked everything under about 85 HP was of Asian origin.
The nameplates ? I don't know where those are stamped out.

As the importer one would think a company has SOME product responsibility, even for afterthought safety interlocks.
Maybe, maybe not - just stick a few interlock micro-switches in, slap danger stickers (in whatever required language) on it - done.