I have a 3700SU, very similar to the 3800. 3PH is horrible if you are trying to fine tune your implement. As a analogy, it would be like hammering finish nails with a 10 pound sledge hammer. I also find the loader a bit lame, it may be because I'm accustomed to a Cat 246 skid steer. There have been several times I thought the L3700 should pick up something and it did not. Mine also had the pin break in the BH at about 20 hours. It was repaired under warranty but I still don't really trust it. On a scale from 1-10, I would give it a 6.