Retrofitting a garage floor drain system with in-floor heat

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fish6942

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The Background: We converted an exiting pole building that was originally built as living quarters into garage space. Due to the original build intent, the floors do not slope any particular direction. The in-floor heat does a terrific job of melting the snow from the vehicles in the winter but then the water ends up running all over including towards the sidewalls.

The Desire: To install some type of floor drain system to catch the melting snow and ultimately drain it.

The Idea: Cut 1" deep channels in the floor around the parking area as well as a few additional channels inside the parking area. These channels would be covered with some type of grate. Periodically bore 4" holes (36" deep) along the channels and vertically install perforated PVC into these holes to give the channels a place to drain into. (see attachment)

The Questions:
1) The slab is 4" thick so provided the PEX is installed at the proper depth, the 1" channels should not be a problem. Sound reasonable?
2) In order to bore the 4" holes, I'd need to know exactly where the PEX lines are in the areas where the holes are to go. Two methods I've read about for locating the lines are: a) A thermal imaging camera used when the heat is running; b) Ground Penetrating Radar. Anyone with experience using either technique?
3) The ground in the immediate area is about 2" of good topsoil with gravel underneath. The garage is on a higher area of the property so there is little concern about the water not draining from the PVC. Comments?


Another Option: I've also considered putting up a perimeter dam of some sort to at least contain the water until I can collect it with a shop vac or possibly install drain holes in the spots where the majority of the water collects. This could be something as simple as a composite threshold material that's 4" wide and 1/2" thick and has a continuous radius across the top to facilitate rolling carts and such across it.


I am certainly open to other suggestions from the brain trust on this site!!

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Anyone?
 
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A thermal imaging camera would work. Best if the floor was cold and then turn on the heat. I don't have any experience with the civilian versions.
 
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Have you thought about pouring a little more concrete, sloping to the center of each bay and toward the door. That would be the safest. A 1/2 inch would be plenty of slope.
 
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Thermal imaging would work very well. I use them at work.
 
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Thanks for the responses.

Regarding the thermal imaging cameras, what type of business would normally offer this service? I tried the local HVAC contractors with no success. My next call will be to the local volunteer fire department.
 
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Many Sheriff Departments have them to look for indoor grow operations. If you have any friends in your local department, they might just happen by your neighborhood, looking around one night after supper. It would only be polite to invite them into your garage to say hello.
 
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cut a trench in the floor and install floor drains, then pour 2 inch more floor and slope to drains, cheaper & easier then trying different things to find out it still does not work, depending on how you sloped the floor may not need to cut drains the extra concrete wont effect the radiant floor heating.
 
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Some home inspection services have IR Thermal imaging cameras and also non destructive testing inspections services often provide the service. Google "Thermography" for your area and you should get some results.
 

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