peh999
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Document...document & document.... and then video it all. Sue her for emotional strees and criminal tresspass. Then file and attach her property for payment.
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No the horses were never allowed down there! The pasture is about 150-feet away from that barbwire fence. The pasture is fenced with panels like in this picture, back then I had electric ribbon fence in front of them. Horses have been gone for years now, granddaughter lost interest in horses when she discovered boys.
Hopefully we'll here something from the prosecutors office this coming week. The sheriff department must have got the message across to her, she hasn't touched the fence in almost a month now.
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I picked this thread up from the August newsletter, I don't post here (or anywhere for that matter) much. When I found out you were in WA state I thought maybe you had property near one of our neighbors. But no, all that rainfall and lush greenness tells me you're over on the coast.
Sorry for your trouble but I guess if there were no problems like this living rural, everybody would want to live the lifestyle and you know where that would end up. Over here in Okanogan County we know we're all a little crazy but most of us aren't "padded cell and medication nuts".
We've got landowners on one of our lines like yours, we've worked really hard not to set them off. Like someone said very early on, there is just no way to deal rationally with crazy.
I will trust that this comes out well for you. From what I've read it sounds like you've done everything you can in an honorable manner. Stay strong, this too shall pass.
Sorry for your trouble but I guess if there were no problems like this living rural, everybody would want to live the lifestyle and you know where that would end up. Over here in Okanogan County we know we're all a little crazy but most of us aren't "padded cell and medication nuts".
We've got landowners on one of our lines like yours, we've worked really hard not to set them off. Like someone said very early on, there is just no way to deal rationally with crazy.
I will trust that this comes out well for you. From what I've read it sounds like you've done everything you can in an honorable manner. Stay strong, this too shall pass.
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Might want to read through the thread. All of those points have been covered. Her surveyor marked corners, his surveyor checked corners and marked the line every 150'. He built a fence, she claimed that the fence was on her side of the line, HER surveyor came back out and agreed with Shield Arc as to where the lines were and she went to court anyway.
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All the woman needs is a tape measure. In the northwest corner of my 5-acres is a survey stake with the surveyor's number on it. Before any surveyors came out, a buddy of mine, and I measured 330-feet south to that little Hemlock tree in the top of this picture with the orange band painted around it. I turned and said to my buddy, Jack lets call this corner for now. Little did I know at that time I was standing right on top of her northwest and my southwest corner survey stake. It was buried with about 8-inches of leaves, and dirt.
She tried her best to steal 1 1/3-acres from me through the court system, and lost. I have know idea what she's trying to pull now!:confused3:
. In the northwest corner of my 5-acres is a survey stake with the surveyor's number on it. Before any surveyors came out, a buddy of mine, and I measured 330-feet south to that little Hemlock tree in the top of this picture with the orange band painted around it. I turned and said to my buddy, Jack lets call this corner for now. Little did I know at that time I was standing right on top of her northwest and my southwest corner survey stake. It was buried with about 8-inches of leaves, and dirt. She tried her best to steal 1 1/3-acres from me through the court system, and lost. I have know idea what she's trying to pull now!:confused3:
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I hope this works out well, though from my perspective it won't be right unless you're reimbursed for the 30K (plus) that you're out. Being a rather vindictive character with a long memory, I'd make this a priority, one way or another. I am not as kind or tolerant as you, which is probably a character flaw in me.
I was born and raised down in Pacific County, on Willapa Harbor, but left for the Southeast Asia war games & never went back, and part of the reason was that sometime in the 60s & 70s the entire character of the State seemed to change, and the nut level seemed to rise drastically. One of my uncles up in Poulsbo claimed that all the rain melted the brain cells of those unaccustomed to the wet climate, but I'm not sure there was a lot of science behind his theory.
A lot of very odd people seemed to move to Washington during & after the 60's, and perhaps your peculiar neighbor iss one of these unfortunate imports that gradually seemed to replace the good, solid stock of farmers, aerospace workers, fishermen, oystermen & lumbermen. I used to visit every few years, between military posts, but gave it up in the 70s and haven't been back since. Now when anyone asks where I was from, I just say "Virginia," since I've lived here a lot longer than my 18 years in Weyerhaueser country. Sure do miss the greenery, and real mountains, though. Out here, what they call mountains are little more than hills.
I was born and raised down in Pacific County, on Willapa Harbor, but left for the Southeast Asia war games & never went back, and part of the reason was that sometime in the 60s & 70s the entire character of the State seemed to change, and the nut level seemed to rise drastically. One of my uncles up in Poulsbo claimed that all the rain melted the brain cells of those unaccustomed to the wet climate, but I'm not sure there was a lot of science behind his theory.
A lot of very odd people seemed to move to Washington during & after the 60's, and perhaps your peculiar neighbor iss one of these unfortunate imports that gradually seemed to replace the good, solid stock of farmers, aerospace workers, fishermen, oystermen & lumbermen. I used to visit every few years, between military posts, but gave it up in the 70s and haven't been back since. Now when anyone asks where I was from, I just say "Virginia," since I've lived here a lot longer than my 18 years in Weyerhaueser country. Sure do miss the greenery, and real mountains, though. Out here, what they call mountains are little more than hills.
Ok, I'm no proper psychologist, but here's a thought that might help people understand apparently crazy people.
In Britain(where I live) we have folk we call Bullshitters. They lie a lot. Not little "get out of trouble" lies but socking great big "I used to be in the special forces for twenty years but it was so secret I have no photos, paperwork, old uniform" sort of lies. I've had to deal with a few people like this over the years, and I have a theory about it. In their mind, they aren't actually lying(although they do know that they are), they are telling you what, somewhere inside, they think ought to be the truth, if only life had treated them the way they think they ought to have been treated.
Sometimes, they will tell you that something is definitely going to happen for them,( new car, new job) when it is only what they hope will happen. Chance, on occasion, will give them what they have told you they will be getting. Then something in the mind makes a wrong connection. The idea is planted that if they can convince enough people that something will happen, then it will happen.
Such folk often have some peculiar ideas about what they should be entitled to. Even though they can't afford what they want, they still think they deserve to have it.
Say you have a '67 corvette in your garage that you use on weekends. John, our crazy, despeately adores such cars. he has this idea in his mind that if only he had a gorgeous bright red 67 corvette then his life would turn out fine, like in a movie. He'd have the car, the friends, win the race and get the girl. He starts to think " you have the car I desire, and deserve. You don't really need it or use it, or look after it the way I would, therefore really I deserve to have your car" He doesn't want to steal your car, he can't buy it, he just wants it. And he hopes that because he deserves it, the car will be given to him.
If this woman is convinced that she deserves some of your land, then everyone who says she can't have it, courts, surveyors, you, are all trying to cheat her out of what she deserves. Such people are so self deluding that they cannot be reasoned with or argued with. you might think you are getting somewhere talking to them, but in the mad bit of their mind where the little cogs go upside-backwards, nothing changes, because that part of their mind is simply unable to accept, the realm truth of their situation.
We had a situation a few years back, where we bought a piece of land, but were not immediately able to stock it. Someone approached my wife to ask if she could graze her pony on our land. I had misgivings, but grudgingly agreed for a peppercorn rent and repairs to fences etc.and that they had to have public liability insurance on the horse. Oh they assured my wife they had insurance. From the name of the insurance co. I guessed it was insurance for vet bills.I asked regularly to see the insurance certificate, , and was fobbed off "tomorrow, tomorrow" My wife told me I was mean and suspicious. After a little while the rent wasn't being paid. When I spoke to the woman and her boyfriend about it they told me what a lovely piece of land it was, how much they appreciated it, how happy they were that the pony lived somewhere so nice, how much their children loved visiting every day..... My wife told me to be patient, we didn't really need the money.
A couple of days later I heard from a neighbour of their's, they were telling people that I liked them so much, and the way they looked after the pony, that I was going to give the piece of land to them:shocked:
I gave them 48 hours to quit my land. When they didn't, they told me I couldn't make them leave legally, as the horse was on the land and they had nowhere to go. They were telling all their neighbours that I could never make them leave, or pay rent. But in a small village you can't say things like that and expect they won't get around. Fortunately my wife finally saw that I'd been right about these people. They charm, they lie, they tell you what they think you want to hear.
Ross
In Britain(where I live) we have folk we call Bullshitters. They lie a lot. Not little "get out of trouble" lies but socking great big "I used to be in the special forces for twenty years but it was so secret I have no photos, paperwork, old uniform" sort of lies. I've had to deal with a few people like this over the years, and I have a theory about it. In their mind, they aren't actually lying(although they do know that they are), they are telling you what, somewhere inside, they think ought to be the truth, if only life had treated them the way they think they ought to have been treated.
Sometimes, they will tell you that something is definitely going to happen for them,( new car, new job) when it is only what they hope will happen. Chance, on occasion, will give them what they have told you they will be getting. Then something in the mind makes a wrong connection. The idea is planted that if they can convince enough people that something will happen, then it will happen.
Such folk often have some peculiar ideas about what they should be entitled to. Even though they can't afford what they want, they still think they deserve to have it.
Say you have a '67 corvette in your garage that you use on weekends. John, our crazy, despeately adores such cars. he has this idea in his mind that if only he had a gorgeous bright red 67 corvette then his life would turn out fine, like in a movie. He'd have the car, the friends, win the race and get the girl. He starts to think " you have the car I desire, and deserve. You don't really need it or use it, or look after it the way I would, therefore really I deserve to have your car" He doesn't want to steal your car, he can't buy it, he just wants it. And he hopes that because he deserves it, the car will be given to him.
If this woman is convinced that she deserves some of your land, then everyone who says she can't have it, courts, surveyors, you, are all trying to cheat her out of what she deserves. Such people are so self deluding that they cannot be reasoned with or argued with. you might think you are getting somewhere talking to them, but in the mad bit of their mind where the little cogs go upside-backwards, nothing changes, because that part of their mind is simply unable to accept, the realm truth of their situation.
We had a situation a few years back, where we bought a piece of land, but were not immediately able to stock it. Someone approached my wife to ask if she could graze her pony on our land. I had misgivings, but grudgingly agreed for a peppercorn rent and repairs to fences etc.and that they had to have public liability insurance on the horse. Oh they assured my wife they had insurance. From the name of the insurance co. I guessed it was insurance for vet bills.I asked regularly to see the insurance certificate, , and was fobbed off "tomorrow, tomorrow" My wife told me I was mean and suspicious. After a little while the rent wasn't being paid. When I spoke to the woman and her boyfriend about it they told me what a lovely piece of land it was, how much they appreciated it, how happy they were that the pony lived somewhere so nice, how much their children loved visiting every day..... My wife told me to be patient, we didn't really need the money.
A couple of days later I heard from a neighbour of their's, they were telling people that I liked them so much, and the way they looked after the pony, that I was going to give the piece of land to them:shocked:
I gave them 48 hours to quit my land. When they didn't, they told me I couldn't make them leave legally, as the horse was on the land and they had nowhere to go. They were telling all their neighbours that I could never make them leave, or pay rent. But in a small village you can't say things like that and expect they won't get around. Fortunately my wife finally saw that I'd been right about these people. They charm, they lie, they tell you what they think you want to hear.
Ross
