Tractor backhoe - homemade

   / Tractor backhoe - homemade
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#381  
If you decide to do it, I will help if I can with my experience from this project.
As for the pins...try to put some high quality steel, that could help
 
   / Tractor backhoe - homemade #382  
It's great to see it coming together. There have been some epic build threads here on TBN but I think yours pretty much blows them all away. The closest one was probably a guy about 10 years ago who built an entire skidsteer loader from scratch.
 
   / Tractor backhoe - homemade #383  
If you decide to do it, I will help if I can with my experience from this project.
As for the pins...try to put some high quality steel, that could help

Thanks for your help offer. The material of pins is OK. It is a design issue.
 
   / Tractor backhoe - homemade
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#384  
What kind of design issue?
 
   / Tractor backhoe - homemade #385  
What kind of design issue?

Because of the dipper is made of 3"x3" square tubing the joint is only3" wide. The dipper is about 3ft long. The pin is 1" diameter. Therefore if the lateral force on the dipper is 100lb the shearing force on the pin is about 2400lb. The bushing in the dipper also might be worn out making the issue worse. I will cut out all the bushings and replace them with larger in example 1.5" diameter. I might also make the joint wider to decrease the shearing force.
 
   / Tractor backhoe - homemade
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#386  
I understand. Well, that could help. The pins on my backhoe are 2 inches in diameter so I expect them to handle the forces
 
   / Tractor backhoe - homemade #387  
If I can mahe a suggestion, try to use 420 stainless steel for your pins. You can free machine it in the annealed condition and then have it quenched and tempered at 200C (400F). This will give you nice hard pins that aren't too brittle. An alternative is 8620 carburized HRC 60 to 0.060" deep but the 420 pins will work out better.
 
   / Tractor backhoe - homemade #388  
I've always wondered whether it was better to have hard bushings and softer pins, so that the pins would wear and have easier replacement.
 
   / Tractor backhoe - homemade #389  
definitely softer bushings with harder pins
 
   / Tractor backhoe - homemade #390  
the pins are in shear, the bushings are loaded in compression.

your shear stress is .577 X radial load (lbs) / pin cross sectional area (square inches)

you want the yield strength of whatever your pins are made from to be atleast 2 - 5 times greater than this. Because it is subject to repetitive loading (fatigue) it should be 10X or more.
 

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