I Still Don't Get It - Float vs Non Float Valve

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I have searched and searched the difference between a rear remote that has float and one that doesn't. I still don't get it, I think because I've never had a tractor before and have never used a rear remote for anything. The only hydraulic thing I own in a Tractor Supply log slitter.
I'm buying a new tractor and having them add a couple remotes and the first one from what I understand (?) can't be float but the second one can so that's what I'm having them do only cause I've read in here to have one with float but not really 100% sure what one type will do different than the other type. I've searched on YouTube also to see if I could watch what the differences would be, but I've found nothing that would help. Just wondering if some one could explain in a more basic way. Need somthing like " Rear Remotes Difference For Dummies" lol Sorry guys it just one of those things I don't get :D
 
   / I Still Don't Get It - Float vs Non Float Valve #2  
In float position, the hydraulic cylinder acts more like a chain, letting the implement move according to the ground contours, etc. Non-float locks the cylinder at one length, which you select.

Bruce
 
   / I Still Don't Get It - Float vs Non Float Valve #3  
If you are entirely unfamiliar...when you move the valve lever to the "float" (detent) position it will snap-lock itself into position...

On almost all ag tractors the 3 point hitch is always in float...meaning it will raise up and down as the ground lifts whatever is attached...
...being able to power a hydraulic top link through a valve with float will expand that flexibility...
 
   / I Still Don't Get It - Float vs Non Float Valve
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#4  
The way you explained it helps me understand now (believe it or not haha) but what are some instances where I would want to be using an attachment with float vs one without it.
 
   / I Still Don't Get It - Float vs Non Float Valve #5  
No need for the float function that I can think of except if you are going to have a top and-or tilt set. Then that is where the float function can be very beneficial. For a top link, if you are mowing steep slopes or pond banks, a lot of the time the swivel mounts on the mowers are not enough to allow the mower to move as much as needed. Put the top link in float and it is then no problem.

Float for the side link allows an implement to move up and down from side-side independently. Not that you want to be doing that all the time, but there are times when it can be very effective to get the finished outcome desired when grading and for raking.

I personally use the side link float function when finish grading-smoothing of my roads at intersections. :thumbsup:When the tractor goes around the corner, the implement then follows the crown of the road instead of the tractor. Without float, I would either dig in or leave piles of dirt. :(

Hope that the explanations help somewhat. ;)
 
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Reason I'm also asking is because I had the dealer order two rear remotes and then called him a few days later to change one to a float but he already ordered the other two but said no problem that he'll just order another one. He said he'd end up selling the one extra that he ordered with out float. I'm thinking if just going with three rear remotes and now and I could have him just install that extra remote but it wouldn't have float. So that would leave me with three rear remotes, two with out float and one with float. I thought I read that it would be better to have two with float instead?? If I have him order the third rear remote to have float it'll be an extra week.
 
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I use float on my front mounted snowblower. When it is in float it just follows the ground on its skid shoes. When not in float sometimes it is a little above the ground and, depending on the hills, it can lift the from tractor tires off the ground when set to low. Float is a great option, as having it on a valve doesn't limit the normal non floating uses, it only floats when an if you want it to.

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Reason I'm also asking is because I had the dealer order two rear remotes and then called him a few days later to change one to a float but he already ordered the other two but said no problem that he'll just order another one. He said he'd end up selling the one extra that he ordered with out float. I'm thinking if just going with three rear remotes and now and I could have him just install that extra remote but it wouldn't have float. So that would leave me with three rear remotes, two with out float and one with float. I thought I read that it would be better to have two with float instead?? If I have him order the third rear remote to have float it'll be an extra week.

All depends on what you are going to use the remotes for. Again, if you are going to get a T&T set, I would wait and get 2 with the float function, but that is just me. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. A week isn't really that long.

Just my :2cents:
 
   / I Still Don't Get It - Float vs Non Float Valve
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#9  
I will eventually get a top-n-tilt set up :)
 
   / I Still Don't Get It - Float vs Non Float Valve #10  
I will eventually get a top-n-tilt set up :)

If you're going to be doing any grading work etc...I bet your "eventually" gets closer to the present every time you have to stop, get off the tractor and make a manual adjustment that with T&T could be done from the seat on the fly...!
 

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