The problem with a 4500 4x4 is the ride height to pull a 5th wheel RV. The 4x4 sit nearly 4in higher. The nose of the 5er would be pointing at the sky. Mine set near level with the hitch pin on the 5th wheel in the last set of adjustment bolts.
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The problem with a 4500 4x4 is the ride height to pull a 5th wheel RV. The 4x4 sit nearly 4in higher. The nose of the 5er would be pointing at the sky. Mine set near level with the hitch pin on the 5th wheel in the last set of adjustment bolts.
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Bet it sounds pretty sweet.....and how about the 2015 F-150? 700 lbs lighter! That has to be good for another 3 mpgs from the Ecoboost 3.5. It wasn't slow before, now a rocket?
An interesting quote from oldest and best friend, who like me has been a motorhead since our teens. He doesn't own a truck and knows nothing of this thread; it's just what he reads and all I can say is this is exactly the reaction Ford wants.
we were discussing the merits of the new Mustang GT convertible, and whether the new pipes sounded as good. Seems to be a higher pitch vs lower before.
I do like the rumble.
An interesting quote from oldest and best friend, who like me has been a motorhead since our teens. He doesn't own a truck and knows nothing of this thread; it's just what he reads and all I can say is this is exactly the reaction Ford wants.
we were discussing the merits of the new Mustang GT convertible, and whether the new pipes sounded as good. Seems to be a higher pitch vs lower before.
I do like the rumble.
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Topkick. that is a way cool truck..Remember that from older threads..Wish I could drive one of those everyday, but the occasional parking garage thing in the city prevents such thoughts...The wife wanted me to buy a 4x4 D-Max dually Denali when I bought the 1/2 ton..Sadly, common sense negated that..Even though I really liked it.
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and gave up the gas powered motorhome market to Ford and it's very capable V10. Sure would be nice if they put DI and other goodies on that thing.
Next time I pull up to another motorhome and wave a twenty out the window, I really don't want to lose it...
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and gave up the gas powered motorhome market to Ford and it's very capable V10. Sure would be nice if they put DI and other goodies on that thing.
Next time I pull up to another motorhome and wave a twenty out the window, I really don't want to lose it...
I had a V10 powered Ford chassis Class C and it ran OK, drank like a kosak though..The plug issues, electrical problems and the rotting exhaust manifold bolts caused me to get rid of it (epic OEM failures all estimated at time and materials, nice)..Couldn't find a GM in the class C market, so I went with a 32' TT pulled by a GMC. No more getting stranded headaches
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I have to say I'm not impressed by the ford V10. I have a 2011 450 box truck 4x4 with the V10 it gets 8mpg empty and 7 loaded. It's underpowered loosing speed in passing gear going up hills in the interstate. It's not had any problems so far and last I checked around 30,000 miles on it. Hopefully it's dependable. Multiple dad had a motor home with the V10 not sure what year but was even less impressed with it than my box truck.
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Real deal on aluminum repair. $ 50,000 investment according to Ford is extreme low ball. $ 1000,0000 to start, plus one or more stalls sitting empty when no aluminum cars are being repaired. If you buy one and wreck it look for a extreme high end European repair shop Mercedes and Audi have a few aluminum cars. Tools, area and welders must all be separate and never mixed. I would expect a 10% to 20% insurance increase at first. That will decrease over the next 10 years after more manufactures go aluminium.
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Ford Reveals Details of All-Aluminum F-150 at CIC
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Paul Massie, powertrain and collision product marketing manager for Ford.
Paul Massie, powertrain and collision product marketing manager for Ford.
Ever since Ford Motor Company officially announced at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit that the 2015 F-150 would be entirely made of high-strength, military-grade aluminum alloy, collision repairers have had many questions about what they need to do to gear up for repairing this vehicle. Some of those questions were answered at the Collision Industry Conference (CIC) held Jan. 16-17 in Palm Springs, Calif.
“We designed the vehicle so it can be easily repaired and accessible so the customer can go where they want to get it repaired,” said Paul Massie, powertrain and collision product marketing manager for Ford.
Massie stated there will be no restrictions on what body shops can repair the vehicle. Although Ford will not require a shop to have a separate clean room partitioned off with cinderblocks, it will recommend the use of curtains to separate aluminum from steel work and specific equipment to handle the repairs. The total investment for a shop that is starting from ground zero with aluminum repair is estimated to be around $50,000.
“That’s if you have absolutely no aluminum equipment today,” Massie said. “So if you’re already in the aluminum business and already have the equipment and separate aluminum from steel, you’re probably a long way to having the equipment you need.”
Also, genuine Ford collision repair parts will be available to all shops. All parts sold will include instructions on how to properly install them.
Ford will begin its education on the 2015 F-150 and aluminum repair at the AASP/NJ Northeast Show March 21-23 at the Meadowlands. A cutaway of the vehicle will be featured so repairers can see all of its structural components. Also, engineers will be present to talk about the vehicle, and I-CAR training developed with Ford will be available.
Ford is also offering to do a presentation on the 2015 F-150 at the next CIC April 9-10 in Portland, Ore., although details are not firmed up yet. Information will also be available at NACE and SEMA.
“The goal is to make high-strength, military-grade aluminum alloy collision repair mainstream,” said Massie. “We want it to be as mainstream as it already is for steel.”
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Paul Massie, powertrain and collision product marketing manager for Ford.
Paul Massie, powertrain and collision product marketing manager for Ford.
Ever since Ford Motor Company officially announced at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit that the 2015 F-150 would be entirely made of high-strength, military-grade aluminum alloy, collision repairers have had many questions about what they need to do to gear up for repairing this vehicle. Some of those questions were answered at the Collision Industry Conference (CIC) held Jan. 16-17 in Palm Springs, Calif.
“We designed the vehicle so it can be easily repaired and accessible so the customer can go where they want to get it repaired,” said Paul Massie, powertrain and collision product marketing manager for Ford.
Massie stated there will be no restrictions on what body shops can repair the vehicle. Although Ford will not require a shop to have a separate clean room partitioned off with cinderblocks, it will recommend the use of curtains to separate aluminum from steel work and specific equipment to handle the repairs. The total investment for a shop that is starting from ground zero with aluminum repair is estimated to be around $50,000.
“That’s if you have absolutely no aluminum equipment today,” Massie said. “So if you’re already in the aluminum business and already have the equipment and separate aluminum from steel, you’re probably a long way to having the equipment you need.”
Also, genuine Ford collision repair parts will be available to all shops. All parts sold will include instructions on how to properly install them.
Ford will begin its education on the 2015 F-150 and aluminum repair at the AASP/NJ Northeast Show March 21-23 at the Meadowlands. A cutaway of the vehicle will be featured so repairers can see all of its structural components. Also, engineers will be present to talk about the vehicle, and I-CAR training developed with Ford will be available.
Ford is also offering to do a presentation on the 2015 F-150 at the next CIC April 9-10 in Portland, Ore., although details are not firmed up yet. Information will also be available at NACE and SEMA.
“The goal is to make high-strength, military-grade aluminum alloy collision repair mainstream,” said Massie. “We want it to be as mainstream as it already is for steel.”
I think you made the right call. With the extra price of diesel, the DEF fluid use, and the up charge for the D-Max and Allison, I would have went w the gas burner also. In retrospect, a 14 2500 LTZ D-Max would cost me MORE than I gave for my 06 4500.
