New Well

8N Ren · May 8, 2014

Oh and one more thing, we were able to use the submersible pump from the old well, apparently that thing can pull water up 200 meters. They put it in at 38 ft and our flow rate is 15g/min.

Looking4new · May 9, 2014

I think even at 9' down I would bite the bullet and add 4-6" of styrofoam anyway. 2" around the sides and the bulk of it on the top of the line. I drive on my well line every day in winter. It is only down 4-5' and with 2" of styro on top. but then again I am about 200 miles south of you in the 'balmy south'. You are around the 49th parallel and I am just north of the 46th parallel.

oldpilgrim · May 9, 2014

can anyone explain to me why driving over a pipe that is buried will cause it to freeze? I've never heard of that. It just doesn't make sense.

Here in my part of New England we bury our water pipes 4 feet down and no one ever worries about them freezing and we drive over them every day.

Looking4new · May 9, 2014

oldpilgrim said:
can anyone explain to me why driving over a pipe that is buried will cause it to freeze? I've never heard of that. It just doesn't make sense.

Here in my part of New England we bury our water pipes 4 feet down and no one ever worries about them freezing and we drive over them every day.

You would experience that IF you got a month or so of -40F temps. We had one night here that got to -55F and it only warmed up to -45F during the day.

Egon · May 9, 2014

oldpilgrim said:
can anyone explain to me why driving over a pipe that is buried will cause it to freeze? I've never heard of that. It just doesn't make sense.

Here in my part of New England we bury our water pipes 4 feet down and no one ever worries about them freezing and we drive over them every day.

Traffic compressis the dirt slightly and keeps snow cover off which there is less insulating factor.

8N Ren · May 9, 2014

oldpilgrim said:
can anyone explain to me why driving over a pipe that is buried will cause it to freeze? I've never heard of that. It just doesn't make sense.

Here in my part of New England we bury our water pipes 4 feet down and no one ever worries about them freezing and we drive over them every day.

Driving over the ground here in the winter time literally forces the frost deeper into the ground, this past winter we had a 30 consecutive day period where it didn't get any warmer then -30°C, that not including a wind chill, much colder then S.E. MA. In the nearby city of Winnipeg there are people and businesses who have had frozen water lines since March.

They say some will not have water for another month or more. The city's mayor is a total sh##head.

As the frost comes out of the ground it actually drives itself a bit deeper before it disperses. Say your dealing with sand, frost can go down 10 feet if it wants to. If my water line was only 4 feet down I'd have to watch out that I didn't sit too close with an ice cream or a cold one lol.

deerseeker001 · May 9, 2014

It sounds like the Winter we had in Wisconsin.

deerseeker001 · May 9, 2014

There were some cities that had there communities run water steady to keep the mains from freezing.

8N Ren · May 9, 2014

deerseeker001 said:
There were some cities that had there communities run water steady to keep the mains from freezing.

Pretty much by the time they released a statement to do that it was more or less to late. Guys with mobile welding rigs know how to thaw the pipes but the city won't hire them to lessen the back log. Some bs about not being qualified to do so.

teejk · May 9, 2014

deerseeker001 said:
There were some cities that had there communities run water steady to keep the mains from freezing.

Some cities??? I think more accurate to say "many cities" (as far south as Sauk City). Code here says 4' depth for footings in most places, 5' in the upper north. Many places were reporting frost depths at 8-10' this year...so much for global warming around here.