Which hoe for a B3030 cab?

[JJZ 109]

I've got my Kubota B3030 HSCC for sale. I have an interested party, but he's got a BH77 that neither of us knows will work on the tractor or not. Maybe Ductape or someone experienced with these models can give an idea of what will go on the cabbed model? He tried to contact a dealer, but they're closed for the holiday.
Thanks guys!

 

[Ductape]

Can't say for sure, but I would certainly guess that he would be able to use his BH77 with Kubota's subframe for the B3000. I'm sure someone here will be able to say definitively as to whether or not the bolt pattern is the same between his 77 and whatever the most current model backhoe that Kubota is putting on the B3000.

 

[JJZ 109]

Maybe Neil Messick will happen along sometime and enlighten me. For some reason (maybe past read here) I'm thinking that it won't work with the cab. I dug up an old thread where a BH 80X was used with a cabbed 3030, but not much else.

 

[Ductape]

Kubota never offered a hoe on the cabbed B3030 until the model number change to the B3000, at which time they started offering the Kubota hoe on the cabbed tractors. Unfortunately, I'm not that knowledgable on the Kubota factory hoes..... so I don't know what model they are offering on the cabbed B3000. In any event, I'm sure the only difference between the cabbed 3030 / 3000 hoe and any of the subframes on non-cabbed tractors is the length of the backhoe side of the subframe..... just like the Woods subframe (the portion of the subframe under the tractor is identical).

Have you tried the 'build my Kubota' on the Kubota site to see what the model number is of the current hoe offered on the cabbed B3000 ? I'm willing to bet $5 his hoe will fit as long as he uses Kubota's subframe for the B3000.

 

[JJZ 109]

Have you tried the 'build my Kubota on the Kubota site to see what the model number is of the current hoe offered on the cabbed B3000 ? I'm willing to bet $5 his hoe will fit as long as he uses Kubota's subframe for the B3000.

I did try that. All it said was 7.7' backhoe or some such. No model number.
I continued to poke around some old threads. A poster had an issue back in 2010 where he was trying to find out if he could add a cab to his 3030 and BH77. He said that he got different answers from different dealers but that Steve Barlow told him a 77 wouldn't work with a factory cab on a 3030. That's the most credible answer I've dug up so far. Not looking good for a sale to this particular guy. :thumbdown:

 

[Ductape]

Unfortunately, I wouldn't necessarily trust the first answer I got from the average salesman. If kubota is putting their latest hoe on the cabbed B3000, and it has had a model number change from the previous model ( i know they changed the model number on them when they started adding their mechanical thumb), the average sales guy isn't going to know the mounting pattern is the same between the two because all he looks at is what is listed in Kubota's wholegoods list. I'm really quite confident it will fit with the current cabbed B3000 subframe.

How about this option......... take a reasonable deposit from the buyer on the condition that if his hoe won't fit on the B3000 subframe, you will return his deposit? Seems fair to me.

 

[JJZ 109]

How about this option......... take a reasonable deposit from the buyer on the condition that if his hoe won't fit on the B3000 subframe, you will return his deposit? Seems fair to me.

The person lives 65 - 70 miles from me so he wants to be sure before he makes the drive to look at the tractor. Can't say that I blame him for that.
Looking through those old posts, and with Barlow's reputation here, I'd probably tend to believe what Steve Barlow says. But on the bright side, another person who only lives about 4 miles from me is showing some interest and may come see it today.

 

[radair]

I have a B3000HSDCC (cab) with a BH77 backhoe. The backhoe sits on a short frame extension that moves it back about a foot to clear the cab. I can shoot a photo if you'd like but the BH is off at the moment. The frame extension can be seen either way.

 

[JJZ 109]

I have a B3000HSDCC (cab) with a BH77 backhoe. The backhoe sits on a short frame extension that moves it back about a foot to clear the cab. I can shoot a photo if you'd like but the BH is off at the moment. The frame extension can be seen either way.

Thanks radair. Just wondering if there are any dimension or bolt hole pattern changes between the 3000 and the 3030 that would negate the 77 being attached to the 3030? I guess that's the $64 dollar question that I have yet to find an answer for.

 

[Ductape]

There won't be any difference in the hoe itself, it will be in the specific subframe to fit the cabbed B3000, which will bolt to the B3030 since they are the same tractor. Go ahead and sell your tractor.

 

[JJZ 109]

There won't be any difference in the hoe itself, it will be in the specific subframe to fit the cabbed B3000, which will bolt to the B3030 since they are the same tractor. Go ahead and sell your tractor.

Haven't heard from the guy in a few days. Appears to have lost interest. My other local guy was a no show also. A lot of tire kickers and dreamers out there who think I'll be giving this thing away. They should build one on Kubota's website and see what a new one stickers out at! :yo-yo:

 

[Ductape]

I can sympathize ..... I've had a couple items on CL lately and its amazing how many people are just amusing themselves by wasting your time. I think your asking price is good, just give it more time. Also, I'd think about put a couple ads on surrounding CLs... like Rochester or whatever.

 

[JJZ 109]

I can sympathize ..... I've had a couple items on CL lately and its amazing how many people are just amusing themselves by wasting your time. I think your asking price is good, just give it more time. Also, I'd think about put a couple ads on surrounding CLs... like Rochester or whatever.

Good plan. Maybe Syracuse area would work. Or not. I guess CL doesn't allow posting in multiple cities. I gave it a shot and they blocked it in Syracuse. Oh well.
Also, just heard from the original interested party. His local Kubota dealer told him that a Woods or other aftermarket would go onto a 3030 cab, but not so for a Kubota BH77. He's decided to search for a B3000.

 

[art]

I could not find where that combination was useable in the price book although with small modifictions one might be made to work. The cab tractor does take the extended frame to move it back from the tractor to clear the cab.

 

[Ductape]

I could not find where that combination was useable in the price book although with small modifictions one might be made to work. The cab tractor does take the extended frame to move it back from the tractor to clear the cab.

Art, are you saying you think Kubota has changed something in the chassis between the B3030HSDC and B3000HSDC ? It would defy logic to me, that the subframe (and therefore the backhoe) for the B3000 would not bolt up to the B3030.

 

[Ductape]

Good plan. Maybe Syracuse area would work. Or not. I guess CL doesn't allow posting in multiple cities. I gave it a shot and they blocked it in Syracuse. Oh well.

Forgot to mention....... you should be able to post in surrounding areas, but you have to change alot of the wording in the ad, especially the title.

 

[JJZ 109]

Forgot to mention....... you should be able to post in surrounding areas, but you have to change alot of the wording in the ad, especially the title.

I've actually been getting some calls from further away than Syracuse. I guess that if people are really looking for a tractor, they'll search further afield on their own.
Never did find a definitive answer on the BH77 question. I think that ship has sailed anyway.

 

[My Hoe]

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[linksvu]

I have a B3000HSDCC (cab) with a BH77 backhoe. The backhoe sits on a short frame extension that moves it back about a foot to clear the cab. I can shoot a photo if you'd like but the BH is off at the moment. The frame extension can be seen either way.

Radair, if I could just confirm, your BH77 was able to fit on the cab'd B3000 because the subframe mounted to the tractor appears to be a bit longer, correct?

 

[bumperm]

If it's like the BH77 frame as used on the B3350 cab, there is an extension attached to the hoe proper. This extension duplicates the original two lower pins and two upper pin holes and moves them forward towards the tractor subframe so they engage the tractor's subframe with the hoe further away from the tractor. With the hoe removed, there is no "abnormal" extension of the tractor subframe (it would get in the way of the 3-point).

bumper