oder in house water in one sink, what's cause?

   / oder in house water in one sink, what's cause? #11  
Interesting problem. I have similar problem with smelly water but in my case, it is the cold water that smells.
I am on well water and use a water softener. I find if I put a dose of "Iron out" water treatment through the softener, it will do away with the smell. This makes me think, in my case, that the filter bed (synthetic beads I can't remember their correct name) get dirty and need to be cleaned off. The mild acid does this and the backwashing cleans out the softener tower and the end result is the water out of the kitchen taps tastes and smells good for a while. It seems to be something that needs attention regularly in my case.
 
   / oder in house water in one sink, what's cause?
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Lookin for ideas here. The magnesium rod can react with sulfates creating hydrogen sulphide , producing mild a rotten egg smell. But I don't have smell in other water spigots. Mentioned above by one poster, maybe the tank needs flushed. I did that when changing rod in tank. I did read somewhere; Tank can be colonized by bacteria in tank causing smell . I don't think thats it because just one point smell comes from. Tank can be sanitized, though . that caught my attention.

Any way I'm still working on it

Cheers....Coffeeman
 
   / oder in house water in one sink, what's cause?
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Smelly house water mostly comes from well water with traces of iron in it. It can react with magnesium. I wonder if Magnesium ions or whatever the term is can react with spigot. Maybe spigot got some kind iron in it. Such a simple thing now seems to be somewhat complicated.

How many water tanks I changed over the years and I never knew to check them. I only found out because of this problem. Popular Mechanics, I believe, mentioned check anodizer in water heaters to get best life out of tank. I figure i'll have to live to a 1000 yrs. to know everything.

Still looking for ideas, but I think I got a plan.....Coffeeman
 
   / oder in house water in one sink, what's cause? #14  
All of your hot water may actually smell, but only the new aerator operates well enough (or too good) to put the odor into the air.
 
   / oder in house water in one sink, what's cause?
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Good point. But after running hot for while it goes away. It real strong first couple minutes being run. Running other sinks first or showers for a while doesn't change the bad sink. Kinda eliminates the tank. However, i do wonder about bacteria in tank as a long shot safety measure just in case. I have read open tank, drain some water and dump hydrogen peroxide in to kill bacteria. For some reason it was suggested chlorine is not plumbers first choice. I've got sort of a plan.

another thing I was surprised to read, magnesium rods were preferred , on one site, over aluminum rods for health reasons. As aluminum laced water is not good for body. Of course most of us don't drink from hot spigot. But some time one might turn on cold water and actually get some cooled off hot in water glass till cool water get to glass. Also, I wonder how many folks use hot water from sink to give stove a head start for boiling potatoes, beans etc. Just mention to pass on to the group if reading this.

If interested in some good info on subject, Hot water heater troubleshooting | Rotten-egg solutions

I'll be working....... I'll post results later .... Coffeeman
 
   / oder in house water in one sink, what's cause? #16  
The rod inside the tank is a sacrificial anode. Electrolysis is kept at bay by eating this rod away instead of the tank and other dissimilar metals. This can be slowed by making sure your water heater is grounded to the main power panel ground buss. Electric or gas, both have power to them and need to be grounded. Copper is always a better conductor than water and especially if there is a dielectric union on the supply line.
I don't know if this anything to do with the smell, but it will increase the life of your $60 anode. Hope this helps. 445A
 
   / oder in house water in one sink, what's cause? #17  
rotten egg smell. to me here in united states = liquid propane gas leakage. they add a chemical to the gas for heaters. and if you get a gas leak, you could possibly smell rotten egg smell.

if not a gas leak, i would suspect, sewage leak. ya have normal drain in bottom of sink, and if bathroom sink normally an overflow in the sink. i have seen some rare sinks were overflow and bottom drain on sink required you to TEE the 2 areas together before going into the P trap. and then having enough water in the P trap to fill the P trap to keep gasses from exiting out of the bottom drain or overflow...

i have seen it were just running enough water has caused the "vents" on the sewage line, cause a back draft per say. which allowed gases from the sewage line to push back through the P trap and back into the home.

i do live on a well but, i have also delt with limited city water. city water is not always good clear / clean water. if ya ever had a "boiling order" per say. normally after the fix or dealt with a new line in the area. to just plain filtering of water at the given water plant. you can get some "fines" in the water small size particles. and the water heater just loves catching the stuff. ya use some hot water. the normal small size particals that would not sink in flowing water now has hours to seat in the water heater and sink down to the bottom before next use. over time, this crud begins building up in the bottom of the hot water tank.

a simple flushing of the hot water tank with some sort of chemical say bleach or like. can disinfect and help remove the crud in the bottom of the tank but not always. if you ever had an aquarium for pet fish or a small backyard pond for say goldfish / koi. and have dealt with algae, and taken stuff apart and seen algae growing inside the pipes and every were else... and have seen what it takes to clean the stuff off. you get a better perspective of just a simple "draining" of the hot water tank and flushing it out with some chemicals, does not really clean it.

this goes with old pipes in the house as well. more so with wells with heavy metals in them. on this old farm house went to replace water pipes that were 1/2" diameter inside diameter, but were barely a tooth pick hole left from all the crud and like built up over the years.

so my question is how bad is your water heater, and how bad are your pipes with crud build up?

if you replaced a line, then how much of that crud, did you end up beating loose from inside the pipes, and now some place stuck in the main flow of water, giving off some ugly smell?

just replacing the anodizing rod doesn't really do much good, if it is being overwhelmed by all the crud that has built up over the years.

for myself, 2 or 3 water heaters here on the farm well, about i guess every 10 or so years. replacing the rod never made much good, it ended having to replace the water heater themselves. of course the water heaters in most part were rusted bucket by then on the outside, so in that respect it was easier call to make, though pocket book, it was a hard call.

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contact your local water company, and ask for a "test kit" some times it is free some times it is not. there is normally a time limit, between time you fill test kit with water, and by the time testing lab receives it and deals with it. if to much time happens, then it may cost you more to redo the test.

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since i am on a well, i already have a "priming" area inside house. to help prime the pump. this is also one of the places, i can dump some bleach into the system, to disinfect things, if i just redid stuff in the house.

1 T, place in main line coming into home, and to everything else.
2 valves. (one to shut off main water line), other one coming off of tee for priming.
1 reducer and/or bushings. go from say a 1/2" valve up to say a 2" to 4" pipe size. basically you are making a "funnel" out of reducers/bushings (going from small size up to larger size), on the very top put a female / male threaded connector. with a screw on end cap. the screw on cap basically to keep crud, dust, etc.. from falling in funnel when not used. (which may be years for some folks between use).

you now have a easy valve / funnel, to dump some cleaning chemicals into your system.

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as far as why that sink? for myself, the way my water lines are ran in house. if i open the valve to fill down stairs pond wide open (very end of everything else). the well pump will begin to cavitate, (pulls air out of the water), and while nearly all bubbles due collapse back into the water, i do get a smallish air pocket in the bathroom sink. granted i have an outside garden hose connection, and kitchen sink, and a old dish water connection before bathroom sink. but those connections. do not come directly off the top of the main water lines. instead i teed into the water lines and had run some feet across the basement ceiling and then up to them. unlike the bathroom sink, were i teed and ran a pipe straight up to the bathroom sink. guess were the bubbles went? bathroom sink. air bubbles = top of pipe. and that is were they ended up at. all the other lines never allowed the air bubbles/gas to escape up and out of the lines, due to water always ran down and out, and then over and up to them. vs straight out off the main line.

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with above said, i am going to say crud that is bottom of the hot water heater, and possibly crud that has built up over years in the regular drinking water pipes, that is the cause.
 
   / oder in house water in one sink, what's cause? #18  
one other notation, water companies more than likely have a few places were they get water from, maybe a river, some wells, a lake, etc... double check with neighbors. also water companies have and may change chemicals all of a sudden pending on conditions that the source water coming into them. different. for aquariums, / back yard ponds, this can be abit of a hassle and using correct chemical to counter act stuff, so fish do not die. i have no idea about your system, but...just saying.
 
   / oder in house water in one sink, what's cause? #19  
sorry for multi posts, if you do bleach / peroxide your system. and smell goes away, but comes back in say within 90 days, i would put money on bacteria, and crud build up in your system. and not being able to physically remove the crud. ya killing it out, but the old stuff dies, and gives a food source for the next stuff that comes back along. bacteria, single cell stuff, etc... grows in and on everything inside your water system. but your hot water heater, can be a big collecter of crud. due to how long water can set in the tank and not move, allowing crud to sink to the bottom of the tank.
 
   / oder in house water in one sink, what's cause? #20  
Good point. But after running hot for while it goes away.
Heat expands materials the aerator is made from changing the aeration characteristics. A no cost quick check would be to unscrew the aerator and try it.
 

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