Harvesting firewood

   / Harvesting firewood #11  
Hardwood makes much better firewood and produce much more heat.
I cut soft wood mainly for camping wood.
I use a skidding winch on the tractor pto...works very well.

Agreed. Got three words for you, though: Eastern Bark Beetle

The things are tearing through the area killing every pine. I have acres of pines that are just not going to make it. A state forestry agent came by years ago, and she told me "those are all standing dead sooner or later - do the region a favor and cut every **** one of them down to slow the spread of the bugs."

It took a while, but I believe her. Problem is I am one guy against a lot of trees. I am mostly oak, beech, gum and poplar (mostly oak and beech) - but still got a few thousand pine out there between them all.

So I learn to burn pine. Having a wood gasifier helps a lot. The flue doesn't gum up and other than energy density, pine burns as good as anything else. I prefer it when I start the boiler "cold" because it burns fast and hot, so it will get the water up to heat faster than anything else. Once the boiler is hot, I generally build a base of white oak or beech, and then toss gum, pine, poplar, cherry...whatever on top. Works great.

I would not burn it in anything without a secondary chamber, though. Creosote makes a mess. But at 1700-1800 degrees I don't have a problem.
 
   / Harvesting firewood #12  
Hope this pic came through of Rhino from last year


I just got my firewood cut up today, all 8 cord or so of tree length that I hauled out last January and February, I was 5 hrs. yesterday 4 hrs. today, and now I'm a little sore. I think running a chainsaw use's different muscles then welding. At least I was able to clean the carbon out of my Husqvarna 550XP with make believe Auto tune, biggest tree was around 16" on but, and a lot of beach white maple some red oak, yellow birch, ash and two white birch trees, a true mixture of hardwood. I'll start splitting some of the bigger stuff this weekend, and get it under cover, even my hands are sore.
 
   / Harvesting firewood #13  
I should of taken a picture of the firewood before I started, I had 8-10 cord of tree length in a different pile to the right, at a 90 degree angle. I put 16 inch forks on my tractor bucket, scoop up 2or3 trees at a time, sometime if the tree is big, just get 1, and bring them over, when I get 8 or 10 trees side by side, I start cutting, after 8-10 hrs., I end up with a big pile perfectly of cut up firewood, at exactly12-20 inches long, or close to it.


Now if I can just figure out away to scoop the wood up in my bucket and load my trailer with out getting a bunch of dirt in with it, getting it under cover would be a lot easier, in the mean time, I'll start getting it in this weekend.
 
   / Harvesting firewood #14  
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Now if I can just figure out away to scoop the wood up in my bucket and load my trailer with out getting a bunch of dirt in with it, getting it under cover would be a lot easier, in the mean time, I'll start getting it in this weekend.

I've wrestled with this myself. This fork I made picks up the wood pretty easily but even with this, one does not escape the dirt that inevitably comes along. Perhaps some type of grapple bottom would be more the ticket for such a chore.
 

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   / Harvesting firewood #15  
Maybe if the whole bucket was made like the front forks it would pick up more wood than dirt, but then I would need a quick change bucket on my tractor. I don't think there's an easy answer for under a $1000.00, but I'll keep and looking for something.
 
   / Harvesting firewood #16  
Maybe if the whole bucket was made like the front forks it would pick up more wood than dirt, but then I would need a quick change bucket on my tractor. I don't think there's an easy answer for under a $1000.00, but I'll keep and looking for something.

I saw one in action recently on a small Kubota. It was tined top and bottom like you suggest and had a third-function grapple. It picked up the logs pretty good and left a lot of junk on the ground, but still some dirt came with it. Logs just like to get dirty. The open "bucket" was much better than a closed one, obviously.

My latest trick is to pile split wood up near the stacks and wait for the rain to clean it off. This week was real wet, so I got a lot of wood to stack today.
 
   / Harvesting firewood #17  
Maybe if the whole bucket was made like the front forks it would pick up more wood than dirt, but then I would need a quick change bucket on my tractor. I don't think there's an easy answer for under a $1000.00, but I'll keep and looking for something.

Actually it is the tines themselves that pick up most of the dirt. It seems the logs some how "bunch" the debris up as they are being pushed into the teeth. That little half round bar I welded in to keep the teeth stable picks up incredible amounts of dirt. I approach the pile with the teeth at a 45* angle being very careful not to "dig in" but s careful as I am, there is always dirt. Perhaps a true manure bucket would be more applicable. Too bad someone doesn't invent a "wood magnet" that just sort of sucks up the wood into the bucket.
 
   / Harvesting firewood #18  
Agreed. Got three words for you, though: Eastern Bark Beetle

The things are tearing through the area killing every pine. I have acres of pines that are just not going to make it. A state forestry agent came by years ago, and she told me "those are all standing dead sooner or later - do the region a favor and cut every **** one of them down to slow the spread of the bugs."...

I'm taking a lesson from the Great American Chestnut Blight. Cut them only when they're dead. The ones that are ailing, but still alive, may have some form of resistance to the beetle (or other pathogen) and may be able to pass it on to the next generation. If you clear cut them to try to stop the spread, as they did with the Chestnuts, you'll probably end up making them go extinct because you killed the survivors too.
 
   / Harvesting firewood #20  
I'm taking a lesson from the Great American Chestnut Blight. Cut them only when they're dead. The ones that are ailing, but still alive, may have some form of resistance to the beetle (or other pathogen) and may be able to pass it on to the next generation. If you clear cut them to try to stop the spread, as they did with the Chestnuts, you'll probably end up making them go extinct because you killed the survivors too.

I don't cut elm for that reason. I usually have a few around that mature enough to make seeds. Don't think I've seen one live over 8"-10" dbh. Maybe someday one will have the resistance to live long.
 

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