4052R down pressure

[RDrancher]

John, I think that you can not have the top & tilt option at all. My thinking is that there are not enough controls to operate everything.

Ah, that would change everything. I'm assuming that one could get the down pressure option, then rack a set of spools in the appropriate location, order a top and tilt kit from you and be all set?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Ah, that would change everything. I'm assuming that one could get the down pressure option, then rack a set of spools in the appropriate location, order a top and tilt kit from you and be all set?

I would think so, but I thought that we were talking OEM feature options in this thread?

 

[RDrancher]

I would think so, but I thought that we were talking OEM feature options in this thread?

Oh...just thinking out loud.

 

[Piston]

If a person requires that additional weight-down pressure on a regular basis, maybe they need a bigger tractor?

I have many tractors that weigh from 600lbs to 18,000lbs. There is always a time when you don't have one big enough.

Just my :2cents:

Brian,
How would a bigger tractor give you more down pressure? Isn't that completely dependent on nothing more than the weight of the implement itself? Or are you referring to the loss of traction comment?


I agree that I would never give up top n tilt for the down pressure, I just think it would be nice to have and be a handy feature. I can't imagine it costing an arm and a leg when compared to the (relative) amount of money that a new 4052R is going to cost in the first place. But then again, I've had sticker shock many times before :laughing:

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Brian,
How would a bigger tractor give you more down pressure? Isn't that completely dependent on nothing more than the weight of the implement itself? Or are you referring to the loss of traction comment?


I agree that I would never give up top n tilt for the down pressure, I just think it would be nice to have and be a handy feature. I can't imagine it costing an arm and a leg when compared to the (relative) amount of money that a new 4052R is going to cost in the first place. But then again, I've had sticker shock many times before :laughing:

I'm not going to deny that on occasion down pressure could be nice to have. That is how our smallest tractor is. My thinking though is if it is required on a regular basis, then you should be using bigger heavier equipment for whatever it is that you are doing. Now a lot of the loss of traction problems go away with having 4x4 tractors, because that loss at the rear gets transferred to the front. But if you are working in hard ground, my thinking is that the additional 450lbs of down pressure is going to be really hard on any implement other than a heavy duty unit, so anyone that decides to cut costs here or there could end up with damaged implements.

Something else to consider, does it work with position control? A lot of times you want the implement to only go down so far, but does that limitation go away when that additional down pressure is applied? Lot's of information to be learned about this option, that's for sure.

 

[bigcut]

Brian,
How would a bigger tractor give you more down pressure? Isn't that completely dependent on nothing more than the weight of the implement itself? Or are you referring to the loss of traction comment?


I agree that I would never give up top n tilt for the down pressure, I just think it would be nice to have and be a handy feature. I can't imagine it costing an arm and a leg when compared to the (relative) amount of money that a new 4052R is going to cost in the first place. But then again, I've had sticker shock many times before :laughing:

Piston,
A few months ago I posted a link to a review of the 4000 series JD's. On page 2 of the article, the author referenced a "new" feature being offered for $700.00 that provides " Downward Force" and is offered as a "Dealer Installed Option". I"m going from memory. Don't recall the title or thread.
John

 

[Piston]

But if you are working in hard ground, my thinking is that the additional 450lbs of down pressure is going to be really hard on any implement other than a heavy duty unit, so anyone that decides to cut costs here or there could end up with damaged implements.

This ^ is a really good point.

 

[Piston]

Piston,
A few months ago I posted a link to a review of the 4000 series JD's. On page 2 of the article, the author referenced a "new" feature being offered for $700.00 that provides " Downward Force" and is offered as a "Dealer Installed Option". I"m going from memory. Don't recall the title or thread.
John

Thanks John. I don't think 750 would be unreasonable at all. Seems like right in the ballpark with what I would expect.

 

[bigcut]

Thanks John. I don't think 750 would be unreasonable at all. Seems like right in the ballpark with what I would expect.

Piston,
Personally, I think the feature may hold merit in certain situations. Like trying to penetrate hard clay soil and the implement just rides on the surface without making sufficient penetration. In such a scenario, it wouldn't affect traction, because the implement would just skim along the surface of the soil.

When I first mentioned this feature in a post, I got a few responses that questioned the merit and feasibility. Interested in what you find out in terms of the details.
John

 

[Hill Farmer]

Down pressure can be handy. Post holes are a breeze, even in the hardest dry clay. Mine actually has enough to lift the back of my tractor. No jack required for flat repair, just blocking.