Please use an appropriate holster

   / Please use an appropriate holster #61  
Well, then, about 300,000 people are doing a real good job of concealing in Ohio. :thumbsup: That number was from 2012, so, with expirations lagging new permits, its probably quite higher now, since in 2013 they granted about 95,000 new licenses and 45,000 renewals in Ohio.

Legal, concealed carry has never bothered me. You can pretty much count on folks that take the time to get permits to be law abiding folks, mostly with good common sense. Mostly.

You have to put it in perspective..... You stand a vastly greater chance of getting in a car accident than getting shot accidentally by a person carrying a firearm legally. I'd be more worried about those 3000# bullets flying around every minute of every day. ;)

Well said Sir!:thumbsup:
 
   / Please use an appropriate holster #62  
Yup, look at the crime rate among ccw holders, its lower than non ccw holders, per capita in general
 
   / Please use an appropriate holster #63  
It looks like you owe LIberty701 a Benjamin. He might accept pymt in ammo. :)
But you are right, statistics can prove most anything. Everyone must make up their mind as best they can.
Tom
He produces an accident report, fair enough.

People who don't wear seatbelts always have some sort of story. They don't produce the accident report because it would differ from their story.
 
   / Please use an appropriate holster #64  
Anybody care to recommend an appropriate IWB holster for a M&P45? I am considering this one so far: CrossBreed
 
   / Please use an appropriate holster #65  
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Anybody care to recommend an appropriate IWB holster for a M&P45? I am considering this one so far: CrossBreed

The Crossbreed SuperTucks are well-made and very comfortable. Worth the kinda high price. Wife and I each have one for our Ruger LC9Ss. The kydex part can be easily warmed and slightly re-molded for exactly the degree of retention that you desire. I punched a small hole in mine right where the mag release hits it to prevent inadvertent magazine unlatching. I am bonier than she is. :thumbsup:

- Jay
 
   / Please use an appropriate holster #67  
Thanks for the two recommendations. I will compare the two and see which one that I think I like best.
 
   / Please use an appropriate holster #68  
When I started on the police department, we were issued .38 revolvers, Colt or S&W depending on which one got the contract that year. But officers were allowed to carry anything they wished on duty as long as it was made by Colt or S&W, .38 or larger. So quite a few officers carried those old 1911 Colt .45s, with one chambered, cocked, and the safety on. Those guns went off in the locker rooms, in the squad cars, in personal cars, etc., but then wouldn't work when needed. I remember at least 2 cases in which an officer would have shot a suspect, if the gun had worked; only one of the cases resulted in an officer's death; the other just resulted in a suspect escaping. And I only remember one case in which an officer was gravely wounded by his partner's .45. Fortunately, most of the "accidental" discharges resulted in either no injuries or minor injuries.

Bird--My Dad felt the same about the 1911's. For 27 years he carried S&W .38. For Plain Clothes he had a snub-nose "Chief's Special" that he carried, even to Church.

Charlie
 
   / Please use an appropriate holster #69  
Bird--My Dad felt the same about the 1911's. For 27 years he carried S&W .38. For Plain Clothes he had a snub-nose "Chief's Special" that he carried, even to Church.

Charlie

Charlie, my department issued me a S&W K model, 6 shot .38 revolver with a 4" barrel in 1964. The city paid $50 for that gun new. Since we were required to go armed at all times away from home, I bought a "Chief's Special", model 36 revolver, .38 with a 2" barrel, from a local dealer to carry off duty. The gun, holster, a box of .38 ammo, and sales tax cost me $54.80. When an officer retires with 20 or more years service, the gun he's carrying is prorated/depreciated and he can buy it, if he wishes. So when I retired, I paid $27.50 for the K model. I still have both of those guns, neither has ever malfunctioned. And I still carry the snub nosed one when I carry.

Five years ago, I bought a Sig Sauer P229DAK, 9mm, paddle holster, extra magazines, etc., partly out of curiosity and partly because, in Texas, if you qualified with a revolver, you could not legally carry a semi-auto, but if you qualified with a semi-auto, you could carry either. So I've been qualifying with the semi-auto, but have never carried it. And now the law has changed again, so if you qualify with either, you can carry either. Unlike the old semi-autos, it's never malfunctioned, but I wish I could sell it since I really have no use for it anymore.:laughing:
 
   / Please use an appropriate holster #70  
I carry a pocket semi-auto pocket pistol. There isn't a safety lever on the little bugger. In a hasty effort to pull it out of my pocket, I run the risk of it discharging with one in the tube. I'll take the extra 1.2 seconds to jack one in the chamber vs one in the leg ( or other regions of my autonomy) any day. And I'm comfortable with that. No training needed.

Google The 21 ft. rule and maybe watch some utube. It might change your mind. In essence it takes 1.5 sec for an attacker to cover 21 ft. No time shuck a round.
 

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