Compact Diesel trucks that we can't get here

[jcummins]

We can identify what we want. To change it you would need to kill the EPA department.

 

[houstonscott]

We can identify what we want. To change it you would need to kill the EPA department.

great idea. HS

 

[3930dave]

Borrowed this link from another thread. Thanks to kf4uda in the '16 Nissan Titan thread !

Cummins Engines

I'll be stopping by the link they've posted, to provide feedback they are asking for. I'd love to see that Cummins in a Frontier.

Make some noise on the Nissan site, esp. if you'd like to see this sold into Canada and the USA.

Rgds, D.

 

[Bluest]

I find it strange that a huge manufacturer like Nissan promotes a tie up with a separate engine maker. It's almost like saying "we don't know what we're doing so we paid someone else". I'm not aware of that ever happeningin modern times in Europe, except maybe in heavy commercial vehicles. There are plenty of engine sharing and development arrangements going on, but the makers keep it quiet over here.

Is Cummins seen as such a market leader that it actually enhances Nissans own brand to be associated with them?

 

[Agvg]

Suppose very few US Nissan customers have ever seen a Nissan diesel engine so it's smarter to float on the reputation of the engine manufacturer.
If it had been sold here in Europe this hadn't been mentioned because everybody know Nissans diesel engine's, but the truth is that almost all Nissan diesel engines in Europe are design and made by Renault.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I find it strange that a huge manufacturer like Nissan promotes a tie up with a separate engine maker. It's almost like saying "we don't know what we're doing so we paid someone else". I'm not aware of that ever happeningin modern times in Europe, except maybe in heavy commercial vehicles. There are plenty of engine sharing and development arrangements going on, but the makers keep it quiet over here.

Is Cummins seen as such a market leader that it actually enhances Nissans own brand to be associated with them?

Yes. If it weren't for Cummins Dodge would have a 1/10th of the HD truck sales they do today.

Chris

 

[3930dave]

I think Diamondpilot means - If it weren't for Cummins, ... (luv'n that autocorrect..... )

I remember when Dodge started offering Cummins options, way back. That move breathed a huge amount of life into a tired truck line, and Dodge has been smart enough to stick with Cummins ever since.

Cummins has fantastic brand-strength here. Always have, but they also made it thru the post 2007 emissions era w/o many of the problems some other brands had.

I'm not inferring anything negative about Nissan's own diesels in other markets - I don't know anything about their modern ones, but the old ones we had in the Canadian market years ago were well liked.

This is a really smart move by Nissan, in several respects.

Cummins has a great brand, the products to back it up, and is USA made (AFAIK). AND, as this thread well details, there is virtually no competion for them here in this product sector - no pickups that I know of (that are not a full-size 3/4 or 1 ton); about the only other thing I can think of is the Grand Cherokee, that is selling here with a diesel option.

Rgds, D.

 

[Bluest]

It's all very interesting because it's easy to think that with globalisation, there not much different, but clearly North America is still substantially different to Europe, and I like that. I remember as a kid we used to go on holiday to Europe and see weird Renaults, Seats and Opels that you rarely saw in UK, but now it's more or less all the same bland stuff everywhere.

 

[Renze]

Is Cummins seen as such a market leader that it actually enhances Nissans own brand to be associated with them?

It enhanced Seat and Skoda quite a bit to be associated with Volkswagen. Seat had a poor brand image because it used to build Fiats under Italian management, and Skoda had a poor brand image from the Communist era because of the RWD, outdated undercarriage, even though their first Favorit front wheel drive car, developed before the VW era. was in its own segment, not a bad car at all and it sold reasonably well in the West.

It's all very interesting because it's easy to think that with globalisation, there not much different, but clearly North America is still substantially different to Europe, and I like that. I remember as a kid we used to go on holiday to Europe and see weird Renaults, Seats and Opels that you rarely saw in UK, but now it's more or less all the same bland stuff everywhere.

your Vauxhalls are a rebadged Opel since the 80s
Seat used to be Fiat, now VW
...And Renault... Especially 30 years ago they probably rotted away before taking shore on the UK isles...

 

[3930dave]

It's all very interesting because it's easy to think that with globalisation, there not much different, but clearly North America is still substantially different to Europe, and I like that. I remember as a kid we used to go on holiday to Europe and see weird Renaults, Seats and Opels that you rarely saw in UK, but now it's more or less all the same bland stuff everywhere.

I can't remember the neurological term for it, but our brains definitely kick into a different gear, when facing something new/unique..... probably had something to with us over-running the planet

I can understand your attraction to the Raptor - I'd never say no to Fox shocks. Though I shudder to think what that truck would cost you to fuel, in your neighbourhood !

Rgds, D.