Question about digging with backhoes

   / Question about digging with backhoes #11  
A backhoe can fill in it's test holes before it leaves the site if all you need are soil type and depth profiles for a vineyard. Should be just a matter of how much each machine would cost.
 
   / Question about digging with backhoes #12  
I do not think you will find a backhoe that goes 10 feet deep that will fit a tiny 1 foot wide bucket.

Both of mine have 12" buckets and both go deeper than 10'. Not uncommon.
 
   / Question about digging with backhoes #13  
I would hire someone to take core samples, probably more accurate, less disturbance of the surface. Usually can be combined with an analysis report too.
 
   / Question about digging with backhoes #14  
Are you renting the machine to do this? Small excavators can come with a 12 inch bucket depending on the rental place. That would be my first choice. If you are going with a backhoe, a full sized one will usually have a 24 inch bucket and can dig down to 12 feet. If you go with a compact, be sure it can dig down to ten feet. How are you going to get the machine there?

You didn't say why you needed the test, but if money is a concern, I wold also look into buying or renting a hand held auger with a couple pieces of pipe to extend the length to ten feet. As a kid, we drilled a well in our backyard this way to water the grass. It wasn't fun, but it works.

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Eddie
 
   / Question about digging with backhoes
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#15  
You didn't say why you needed the test, but if money is a concern, I wold also look into buying or renting a hand held auger with a couple pieces of pipe to extend the length to ten feet. As a kid, we drilled a well in our backyard this way to water the grass. It wasn't fun, but it works.

Eddie

Some folks want to lease some of our land to plant grapes, so they are paying for the work to be done, but want to find out about our soil, so they are the ones paying whoever to dig or drill.
 
   / Question about digging with backhoes #16  
Both of mine have 12" buckets and both go deeper than 10'. Not uncommon.

My BH will go down to 11 feet 4 inches. I have a 12 inch bucket, but normally keep the 24 inch bucket on.

I would google soil sampling before renting a BH. A little hole borer might be way cheaper (&faster) that the expense of hauling a BH out to your place and doing the dig deed.

I am sure these folks want numerous areas sampled...............so that would be a lot of BH time. On Gold Rush, I saw a sampling borer machine that would go down 30 to 40 feet. So the machine to fit your needs is out there. I'm just not sure a BH would be that machine.
hugs, Brandi
 
   / Question about digging with backhoes #17  
Some folks want to lease some of our land to plant grapes, so they are paying for the work to be done, but want to find out about our soil, so they are the ones paying whoever to dig or drill.

I am curious as to why they need to go down 10 feet for grape production. Most biological/ bacterial activity for plant growth is in the top 1 foot of most soils and porosity tests are generally in the 2-3 foot depth. I have owned two grape vineyards for over 30 years, 420 acres in Argentina and 80 acres here in Texas, and very old root stock pulled up in areas scheduled for replant is at most 2 feet deep. Are these folks experienced at grape production? Possibly there is something new I am not aware off though I keep up with new growing techniques constantly.
 
   / Question about digging with backhoes #18  
Geoprobe. That's what you want to look for. Search for an environmental company who does subsurface testing. Around here we have a company that has a fleet of geoprobes with operators that rent out on a per job basis.

They put the Geoprobe units on pickups through crawler units, to be able to pretty much access anywhere from heavy industrial urban sites to muddy fields. They don't go through rubble / rock - only soil.
 
   / Question about digging with backhoes #19  
my Kioti wont dig ten feet down but my International will go to a 14FT flat bottom with no problem. I would let them pay someone with the right core machine to get the samples
 
   / Question about digging with backhoes #20  
What's the chance there was some communication? Are you sure it is 10' and not 10"? Or maybe it is a sample at 10' intervals in a given area?
 

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