Kubota, Kioti quotes

[Coyote machine]

I wasn't trying to compare tractors in Kioti vs Kubota, just wondering if the 29.9 quote from Kubota seemed about right along with the 28 for the NX5010 The 29.9 from Kubota was cash or 0%. Nothing is free, which is why price always comes first, then needs and wants. I cant remember the last time I looked at a menu and didn't look at prices before the actual food. Either one of these would be capable of the same purpose.

How can you not be comparing the two brands? You have prices on each, and want to know if they're good, but you're not even sure if the price you mention for the Kioti is the price you were quoted; and on the Kubota you thought the price would be higher? So what exactly are you looking for? You ask if they are reasonable? This is largely a subjective question/answer, and comparing a choice on a menu to a 30+ thousand dollar tractor purchase is laughable.
BTW, you posted in the buying/pricing/comparisons forum, so excuse me if it seems from your unclear post, maybe you might just be comparing tractor pricing?!
And, as others have pointed out, the two tractors aren't even in the same category regarding features, etc.

 

[Kodiak45]

I intended the question of reasonableness to be independent of the brands and was just looking for a smell check on the prices to what others have seen in the market. Comparing to looking at a food menu is simply the differences in personality of people as some put priority on wants and needs before price, especially in this day and time. Budget should always come first. It's good to know they aren't the same category and these aren't apples to apples although that wasn't my original intent. I was just shocked that the kubota and Deere were that low as my impression has been from reading that they both would be in the +35k range. Sorry to cause confusion my purpose as I hastily post without regarding perception could be interpreted. I think the saying goes that 100% of what we communicate is often 80% misunderstood with no fault of either party.

 

[GManBart]

After looking at Foster's tractor packages, a JD 5055E (with loader) is around 37k with box blade, cutter, PHD, and 20' trailer. The extras are at least worth 4k so that makes the JD roughly 3k more than the Kubota and 5k more than the kioti. I thought I had read on here that people were seeing a 10-15k price difference between green/orange and LS/Kioti. I'll pay a thousand or two extra for green paint and a name if we are comparing apples to apples specs wise. Am I mistaken or confused? I just built the Kubota mx5200 with HST, 4x4 and loader for 33k and there is a cash rebate of 2500, so even building a Kubota I can get to around 30,500 after rebate. I would assume dealer would be a few thousand lower than MSRP automatically, so now I'm real confused. I need to check that kioti price again and confirm.

Scratch the 2500, I see a 4k rebate on Kubota if I buy one implement along with the loader and I choose standard financing which I would assuming there was no prepayment penalty and I could pay it off within the first month or two. I don't see anything about prepayment penalty

First off, the price on the NX5010 is high. Around here an NX5010 cab model runs $31K and open station are around $25K.

The second thing is that it's not really an apples-to-apples comparison. You'd have to look at a Grand L to get similar features on a Kubota, and that would bump the price a fair amount. Then you're looking at a $25K tractor versus something in the range of $33-35K.

I also suspect you won't be able to get out the door (pre-tax) with the Kubota for the quoted price...dealers like to quote a basic price, but when you sit down to sign the paperwork there are suddenly a handful of things that wind up being another $1-2K.

 

[Coyote machine]

I intended the question of reasonableness to be independent of the brands and was just looking for a smell check on the prices to what others have seen in the market. Comparing to looking at a food menu is simply the differences in personality of people as some put priority on wants and needs before price, especially in this day and time. Budget should always come first. It's good to know they aren't the same category and these aren't apples to apples although that wasn't my original intent. I was just shocked that the kubota and Deere were that low as my impression has been from reading that they both would be in the +35k range. Sorry to cause confusion my purpose as I hastily post without regarding perception could be interpreted. I think the saying goes that 100% of what we communicate is often 80% misunderstood with no fault of either party.

Yep, I could easily have thought you meant to compare, though you didn't have that as your primary purpose. And I don't know enough about Kubos to comment on value for $ spent. One thing I'm certain of is the 2 Kioti's I've had since 2009, with aprox 1200 hours between them, is they are EXCELLENT tractors, price aside, and when compared feature for standard feature they are the best thing going. Deere has a reputation for being pricy, as does Kubo, but there are lots of loyal fans of each.
Again, for me at least, it's got to be a balance of money spent to features gained to meeting needs and then wants. IMHO, price does NOT come first, but is definitely a factor, a luxury not everyone has when deciding. Dealership fit/proximity is also a factor; and in some areas Kioti is not as well represented as other brands. Good luck, buy Kioti!

 

[ErikVann]

To continue with the menu metaphor, the kubota is one of the pricier items on the early bird special page and the kioti is one of the cheaper specials of the house page. Both fine fine options, just depends on your appetite. Good luck with your selection.

 

[Friend Of Coal]

After reading this forum for months, this is my first post.

I've just purchased a Kubota MX5200 HST and awaiting delivery. Before pulling the trigger, I'd looked very closely at the Kioti 6010 HST. I liked several features on that tractor and the loader is a fair amount stronger than the Kubota. The biggest factors for my decision were that the Kubota dealer is local vs 70 miles for Kioti. I didn't doubt Kioti quality but I felt a little better about Kubota quality and resale value. Not to mention the Kioti was about $2000 more.

I feel like I got a good deal and wanted to share with the OP:

Tractor - $24,800 with loaded R4 tires, 3 bucket hooks and mesh welded into grille guard.
Loader - $5200
Total $30,000

3rd function remote - $800

Less Rebates - $3000

Grand total $27,800

Also purchased a Land Pride RC1872 for $2100

Total out the door $29,900

Tractor will be used on 32 acres where we are building a house. Clearing some timbered area, some dirt work and bush hogging. This is my first tractor ever and I'm super excited about it. Now I need to win the lottery to afford all the attachments that I want.

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[gladehound]

After looking at Foster's tractor packages, a JD 5055E (with loader) is around 37k with box blade, cutter, PHD, and 20' trailer. The extras are at least worth 4k so that makes the JD roughly 3k more than the Kubota and 5k more than the kioti. I thought I had read on here that people were seeing a 10-15k price difference between green/orange and LS/Kioti. I'll pay a thousand or two extra for green paint and a name if we are comparing apples to apples specs wise. Am I mistaken or confused?

Typically, Kioti is much less expensive for a similar tractor compared to JD or Kubota. However, what you did here was pick the best value tractor in the Kubota and JD line ups and compared it to Kioti's flag ship tractor. That's why the price is close. Kioti doesn't have anything to directly compare to a Kubota MX HST. If it were a Kubota MX gear tractor I would say compare the Kioti DS (or new DKXX10 series that just replaced the DS). 6 months ago I bought a DS4510HS with loader and one rear remote for 19.5K before tax. 20.6K out the door. Slightly smaller engine than you are looking at but slightly stronger loader. It has a power shuttle but no HST.

Like you, the price tag means a lot to me. I was looking for the most tractor for the lowest price. I did find a JD5055E with power reverser and loader for 33.5K. It's more tractor but that's a lot more money. Plus I was uncertain about reliability on the JD because that series is made in India. I'm not saying reliability is bad. Just that I was uncertain whereas I felt more comfortable with Kioti. I never priced a comparable MX and I'm not sure a power reverser is available.

Good luck on your decision. I'm sure you'll be happy with whichever one you decide on. If you're not set on HST and price is a big deal, check out he new DKxx10. They should be better on price and I think you can still get the power reverser.

I'm on my second Kioti now. Had my first kioti 9 years and it was 100% reliable. I sold it to up size.

 

[paulfun9]

After reading this forum for months, this is my first post.

I've just purchased a Kubota MX5200 HST and awaiting delivery. Before pulling the trigger, I'd looked very closely at the Kioti 6010 HST. I liked several features on that tractor and the loader is a fair amount stronger than the Kubota. The biggest factors for my decision were that the Kubota dealer is local vs 70 miles for Kioti. I didn't doubt Kioti quality but I felt a little better about Kubota quality and resale value. Not to mention the Kioti was about $2000 more.

I feel like I got a good deal and wanted to share with the OP:

Tractor - $24,800 with loaded R4 tires, 3 bucket hooks and mesh welded into grille guard.
Loader - $5200
Total $30,000

3rd function remote - $800

Less Rebates - $3000

Grand total $27,800

Also purchased a Land Pride RC1872 for $2100

Total out the door $29,900

Tractor will be used on 32 acres where we are building a house. Clearing some timbered area, some dirt work and bush hogging. This is my first tractor ever and I'm super excited about it. Now I need to win the lottery to afford all the attachments that I want.

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Again not comparing tractors with the same features. How much more for a grand L series that actually competes with the NX?

 

[Friend Of Coal]

Again not comparing tractors with the same features. How much more for a grand L series that actually competes with the NX?

You're absolutely right. I never priced the Grand L. I felt the MX was a good value and merely trying to provide feedback to the original OP's question. I also pointed out that the NX had options the MX does not. The NX is also a good value. Lots of features for a good price. I wanted to stay under $30k and get the most tractor and cutter that I could get. The MX allowed me to do that.

I'm not insulting you or your piece of iron.

I don't think he will be disappointed with either choice.

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[paulfun9]

You're absolutely right. I never priced the Grand L. I felt the MX was a good value and merely trying to provide feedback to the original OP's question. I also pointed out that the NX had options the MX does not. The NX is also a good value. Lots of features for a good price. I wanted to stay under $30k and get the most tractor and cutter that I could get. The MX allowed me to do that.

I'm not insulting you or your piece of iron.

I don't think he will be disappointed with either choice.

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Not insulted in any way! This is a discussion place and the post is more so about the comparison on prices of different machines. To be fair one needs to compare the same type with the same kind of options. Now the machines have changed slightly since I purchased the DK but the fact is I paid close to what you did for your MX and got a backhoe with mine for just a few hundred less. If you had priced a NX5010 and the price was the same or lower than the MX and you could get the backhoe included with that price, what would you have brought home?