Traction Looking for advice on stump removal

   / Looking for advice on stump removal #1  

2TonCommon

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Kitsap County, WA
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Mahindra 2816 HST
I'm planning to help my brother remove a large number of tree stumps after his trees have been harvested and I'm looking for input and advice on the most efficient methods to accomplish this.

I'm dealing with about 1.5 acres of stumps. Most of them will be under 12" in diameter. All of them are conifer (Fir, Hemlock, Pine). The trees were pretty densely packed, so there may be some entanglement of the root systems. The stump cut-off height will probably be in the neighborhood of 12 to 15 inches off the ground.

My equipment is a Mahindra 2816 HST (28 HP) with a FEL, and various 3 point attachments (box scraper, grader blade, boom lift, etc). I'll be operating on a mild incline of about 5 degrees in a loam, clay, dirt and small gravel terrain.

My plan so far is to expose as much of the roots around each stump w/ my FEL and have some strong young men w/ axe's cut the exposed roots. Afterwards, I would scoop out as much dirt from around the base and keep attacking the roots until the stump begins to visibly move when pushed w/ the FEL. Once I got to that point, I could either attempt to break it away from the ground by lifting & pushing w/ the FEL or strap it w/ a logging cable and tug on it by pulling downhill.

I have a single point ground-breaking implement that I can hook up to the 3 point hitch which should be able to cut through the smaller roots. I know the old-time farmers would use a leveraging device mid-way between the stump and the tractor to apply significantly more pulling force, but I think that would require the stump to be much taller than the 12 to 15 inches I'll have to work with. If renting a specialized 3 point attachment might help, I'm all ears.

I'm betting that someone in this group has done this before and has perhaps discovered a reasonably efficient way to accomplish this so your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
   / Looking for advice on stump removal #2  
You are going to put a LOT of wear and tear on your tractor trying to complete this task. I suggest you either rent a dozer or excavator for a weekend or hire it done. We all enjoy playing with our tractors but it is important to realize their limits. Large number of trees with stumps up to 12 inches in diameter is more wear and tear than I would want to subject my 47 horse John Deere to...

The correct attachment for your tractor for this task would be a backhoe.
 
   / Looking for advice on stump removal #3  
I agree with Storm56, use the right tool for the job. What you want to do is the equivalent of using 7" channellocks to remove lug nuts.

An acre and a half of stumps is a pretty good day-plus job for an excavator, it'll take months to do it with a 28hp CUT, and you'll likely trash your tractor in the process.
 
   / Looking for advice on stump removal #4  
Your asking BIG task of your tractor,I would hire or rent hoe of some sort removing stumps and good chance you find rocks that will be need removing.
If your going to try remove stumps use center of bucket,useing corner may result in damaging front hub seal...stress/jerking.
 
   / Looking for advice on stump removal #5  
Your asking BIG task of your tractor,I would hire or rent hoe of some sort removing stumps and good chance you find rocks that will be need removing.
If your going to try remove stumps use center of bucket,useing corner may result in damaging front hub seal...stress/jerking.
 
   / Looking for advice on stump removal #6  
An excavator (even a pretty small one) or a dozer will be the most efficient way to clear those stumps. A traditional backhoe will do it, but the need to constantly reposition will make for slow going.

The primary problem with using an FEL bucket is that they're simply too wide for the job. Because of that you frequently wind up digging ground four feet away from the stump rather than hitting the roots...that leads you to trying to use the corners of the bucket, and if you can get to them that way, it's bad for the FEL structure (twisting is really bad for SCUT/CUT loaders).
 
   / Looking for advice on stump removal #7  
I have a full size backhoe. I would rather dig a 24" oak tree out than a 12" pine any day. Those pines have tap roots that go 5' or more here. A hoe of some kind would be best.
 
   / Looking for advice on stump removal #8  
yup, those other guys are spot on.

I have a slightly larger tractor with BH and would really think hard about taking that job on. A BH would do it but a lot that size it would take a long, long time.

I'd never consider it with just a FEL...it would be nearly impossible to get done without busting something. After a stump or 2, you'd agree.
 
   / Looking for advice on stump removal
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OK gents.... you've convinced me that this is a BAD idea to go after these stumps with my rig.... I must confess I was sitting on the fence with doing this to begin with, and your advice helped me make the smart choice. I'll tell my brother he'll have to pony up the money to rent an excavator and an operator. Thank you all for your wise advice..... I genuinely appreciate it!
 
   / Looking for advice on stump removal #10  
OK gents.... you've convinced me that this is a BAD idea to go after these stumps with my rig.... I must confess I was sitting on the fence with doing this to begin with, and your advice helped me make the smart choice. I'll tell my brother he'll have to pony up the money to rent an excavator and an operator. Thank you all for your wise advice..... I genuinely appreciate it!

That's a smart move.

However, I was going to recommend a stump grapple, simply because I think it would give you the satisfaction of getting a handful of stumps out, before realizing it's just too much for your equipment.


I may have missed it, but are the trees already down? Are you taking them down or hiring it out to loggers?
 

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