Why are you brand loyal?

   / Why are you brand loyal? #41  
I never buy used. And I never finance. Keeping the car 10 or more years allows me to do that.

I never buy new. I tend towards 8-10 year old vehicles then drive them 'til they drop. One reason is that they've pretty much depreciated as much as they're going to, also you see which ones stand up over time. If you tend not to see many old ones of a certain make/model you know they're one to avoid.

Of course, you kind of have to take what you get...no choice of options, but it seems today you only get to choose "loaded" or "really loaded" anyway.

I happen to like Honda automobiles and have owned many, but they totally blew me off when we had a problem with a car a few years ago, which was a $2800 issue. I could tell I was getting screwed when a rep at their 1-800 number went into "stonewall" mode, and I was shocked and disappointed they would behave that way. So they probably lost my business in the future.

I had the same experience with toyota (wife's car). Problems they couldn't seem to fix, and dealing with the company was like dealing with the cable company. Unfailingly polite, somewhat condescending and absolutely stuck to the script. I'll never even consider one again. Can't say I especially liked the car to begin with, but their customer service sucked.
 
   / Why are you brand loyal? #42  
This is one of the reasons why I am not brand loyal...............see the attached link announced today by Canadian Government and Toyota.

Ontario and Ottawa to provide $100 million for Toyota expansion - The Globe and Mail

You see they all take taxpayer money even Honda is mentioned here, and anyone who thinks Ford didn't is skewing the facts.............they all do or did. So basing brand loyalty on that is just foolish.
I will stick to what gives me best value for the money balanced with reasonable quality.
 
   / Why are you brand loyal? #43  
Kinda hard to argue with this quote from the article...

“Why on earth are our governments handing them a hundred million dollars from the public purse? Will any of them say with a straight face that Toyota needs this money?”
 
   / Why are you brand loyal?
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#44  
It doesn't look like they are giving them $100 million dollars, they look like loans to me. If it brings in jobs and tax dollars, it might be a good investment.
 
   / Why are you brand loyal? #45  
It doesn't look like they are giving them $100 million dollars, they look like loans to me. If it brings in jobs and tax dollars, it might be a good investment.

If it is really loans they could be making good money on interest for the loans
 
   / Why are you brand loyal? #46  
Kinda hard to argue with this quote from the article...

“Why on earth are our governments handing them a hundred million dollars from the public purse? Will any of them say with a straight face that Toyota needs this money?”

'Handing' is not a financial term.

Directly from the article, emphasis mine;

"Ottawa’s contribution will be a repayable loan of $59 million — about 14 per cent of the cost of the project — while the Ontario government is kicking in a grant of $42.1 million, or 10 per cent"

EDIT: If people want to argue about who took loans/money and who didn't, start a thread in the Friendly Politics forum.
 
   / Why are you brand loyal? #47  
I've always had at least 1 dodge in my fleet all my driving life. Other vehicles have been ford (only once) toyota, GM
 
   / Why are you brand loyal? #48  
I'm brand loyal for a few reasons. Looks better with four matching Yamaha dirt bikes in the garage. I only have to go to one john Deere dealer to pick up filters and parts. Once you learn to work on a ford truck why would want to reinvent the wheel.

I've owned five different toyota's in the past 20 years and still haven't had to work on them enough to get good at it. :D

Currently a 2000 Tundra daily driver with 283,400 miles and 2010 Sequoia with 89,000 miles.

My 2nd, 3rd, and 4th choice is GM.

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   / Why are you brand loyal? #49  
Currently a 2000 Tundra daily driver with 283,400 miles

Those early Tundras were built bullet proof from everything I have heard. Sounds like you are confirming that? Pictures?
 
   / Why are you brand loyal? #50  
I've owned five different toyota's in the past 20 years and still haven't had to work on them enough to get good at it. :D Currently a 2000 Tundra daily driver with 283,400 miles and 2010 Sequoia with 89,000 miles. My 2nd, 3rd, and 4th choice is GM. Sent from my iPhone using TractorByNet
How many ball joints have you been through on that Tundra? It seems like every few weeks I see one on the side of the road with the tire wedged sideways underneath.
 

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