L110 "reverse" button? huh???

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Richard

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Bought a used L110 from my brother in law. Works fine. He said there was one issue with it....it has a button on the dash that if you don't depress the button and go to reverse, the blades will die.

Well, he was wrong. The blades don't die, the entire engine shuts down.

All I gotta say is "wow", I don't get this piece of stupidity.

Here's what it says on their online manual

"[h=3]Testing Reverse Implement Option (RIO)[/h]
1. Park machine safely. (See Parking Safely in the SAFETY section.)2. Start engine.3. Engage PTO to start attachment.
caution.gif
c CAUTION: Avoid injury! Rotating blades are dangerous. Children or bystanders may be injured by runover and rotating blades.
Before backing up, carefully check the area around the machine.
4. Look behind the vehicle to be sure there are no bystanders.5. Begin reverse travel by depressing reverse foot pedal for automatic transmission or moving gear shift lever to R (reverse) position for gear transmission.Result: Mower and engine should stop operation. If mower or engine continues to operate as tractor begins travel in reverse, do not continue to operate mower.




Now... my question to anyone that knows (I've not yet stuck my head under there to fix this)

Would I need to go under there and connect the wires to bypass this absurdity or would I go under there to disconnect the wires to bypass?

Does anyone have a clue why this was designed as a kill button for the engine unless it's depressed while in reverse?

(in other words, tell me why I shouldn't bypass this other than "it's how they engineered it with some (stupid) safety feature in mind"

I equate this to those stupid new gas tanks that we all so dearly love.
 
   / L110 "reverse" button? huh??? #2  
Post a wiring diagram, I'll puzzle it out.
 
   / L110 "reverse" button? huh???
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#3  
Haven't found one yet.
 
   / L110 "reverse" button? huh??? #4  
It is put on there some babbling idiot does not back over a 3 year old.
 
   / L110 "reverse" button? huh??? #5  
All started back when Sears was sued for an accident injuring (or maybe worse) a child when backing over them with mower running. That was the stupid part. Now comes the reaction for the sue-happy population and our ambulance-chasing lawyers.

Deere has their solution, to allow over-riding the RIO switch.

I say, if you cannot find how to take it out of the circuit, then you best leave it there. 'Cause it may just be there for those people.
 
   / L110 "reverse" button? huh??? #6  
Look at the mechanism. Think mechanical. You don't have to do anything to the electrical. Just look at it.
 
   / L110 "reverse" button? huh??? #7  
My solution is two inches of automotive wire and two minutes with no stripping of factory wires. Strip one quarter inch from each end of the two inch wire and insert into the grey and green wires in the back of the reverse switch plug. Secure the wire with a plastic wire tie.
 
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I pulled the leads off the switch, stuck a piece of wire to connect the two and taped it up. 2min fix. Agree it's a worthless defeat.
 
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Thanks for the various thoughts. I'm glad to get the feeling that I'm not alone in my thinking that this is just absurd.
 
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lawyer switch
 

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