She's Finally Here...so now I have a question.

[onelostdogg]

After a few false starts due to things beyond my control, our EX3200 was delivered this afternoon. Only drove her down the lane and back a few times as I wasn't feeling the greatest but looking forward to getting her dirty as soon as possible. My first question...I got the owner's manual about 2 weeks ago from the dealer as I need a LOT more time to absorb new info due to a brain injury and according to the manual, my read is that the first oil change should be before 50 hours but it is not specified as to how much earlier.

The dealer said I don't need to do my first oil change until 50 hours because diesels are different. Just checking but to me, a new engine is a new engine. Period.

What do you guys think?

Thanks in advance,

John

 

[msb1766]

I have An Sc2450 Cub/Yanmar, I changed the oil and filter at 50 hours just like my manual said.
I believe they want you to do it at 50 hours because the oil and filter to remove any small bits of metal due to manufacturing and breaking in the engine.
Go to your dealer and get the oil and filter now so when you get close to the 50 hour mark you will already have the items.

 

[onelostdogg]

Thanks for your reply. Was thinking of doing it at 10-20 hours and again at 50. Am I being crazy here?

 

[smstonypoint]

Thanks for your reply. Was thinking of doing it at 10-20 hours and again at 50. Am I being crazy here?

I don't have a Yanmar, but the owner's manuals for my diesels ( a NH and two Kubotas) call for the first oil change at 50 hours.

I have heard of "break-in oil," but I don't know whether there is such an oil or whether such an oil is used in new engines. If it is used, you would be defeating its purpose by changing oil at less than 50 hours.

I don't know whether you would be crazy, but I think you would be at a minimum wasting your time and money by changing your oil at 10-20 hours.

Steve

 

[AxleHub]

Onelastdog,

reading and following manuals is a good thing to keep from hurting your equipment. However, an owner's own judgement must be included because those manuals are NOT written for maximum care . . they are written for standard or minimum care.

On motorcycles, cars, trucks, and now tractors I have always changed first oil considerably before the manuals say.

My new tractor I am changing the oil and filter this week at 28 hours instead of 50.

I have never once done an early oil change that the oil didn't contain metal sparkles in the oil. Now keeping that out of a new engine is a benefit to any engine . . Especially today with tighter tolerances.

In addition the oil manufacturers put in engines before loading them for shipment to the US is typically not premium product and they know its short term oil and that dealers fill the balance before delivery.

Lots of people have told me there is no such thing as a break in period in new engines anymore . . and I show them the oil samples and then they get real quiet. Oil doesn't lie or excuse . . the sparkles are always in used first oil at early change.

I have never had a NEW engine that didn't outperform specs for power and fuel efficiency. I've never had early engine failure. There is a reason for that . . . oil is just part of the break in process.

Old Loose tolerance require break in . . New tighter tolerances demand it.

 

[woolyAcres]

Hi John-

I'm afraid I don't have any useful input on the break-in/fluid change period but I just wanted to congratulate you on the new machine. I hope it's everything you hoped for and more. Keep us posted, and of course, share some pictures!

Regards,
Peter

 

[AxleHub]

Greetings again John,

I'd also echo the same congrats. Those ex3200 tractors are well built and for their size . . . offer great flexibility as well as reliability.

I was at a dealer's service center just Sunday afternoon and we were looking at an ex3200 that was in for routine maintenance. The dealer and a service tech both were talking about how much they liked selling that product and wished they could get more of them. They have very few customer issues. And the only complaint they have is they don't generate much service income from them because they don't break down. Lol

 

[onelostdogg]

Thanks everybody. So far very pleased with the entire 2.2 hours. I appreciate the Congrats and replies to my question(s)...I'm sure I'll be having more. And yep I will get some pics on here in the future. When I had my Harley and my current car, I was fanatical about that first oil change...and Axle, I have seen those tiny silver flecks in the oil on both of those. Think I will spend the money and do it early. Cheap peace of mind.

 

[onelostdogg]

Peter, nice to hear from you! How is your quest going?

 

[onelostdogg]

Steve, forgot to mention I called the dealer and yes there is such a thing as breakin oil. Yanmar does not use it in their smaller machines. Thanks.