Using clutch as a brake?

[son of man]

I agree so long as you don't hear any grinding then it sounds like you're operating the tractor correctly

I don't hear any grinding or other noises when I depress the clutch to stop the tractor. however, every now and then I hear/feel some grinding when I shift gears after stopping. maybe I didn't have the clutch fully depressed or was still moving? or perhaps I need to also depress both brakes when shifting.

 

[Ivan49]

I don't have neutral on my tractor.

What kind of a tractrdoyou have? Anytime you shift the tractor to another gear there isa neutral in between gears

 

[son of man]

Do you have an operator's manual? If not, I would highly recommend getting one if you can. It should cover all the questions you have asked and more.

You would think the manual would cover all the basics... however, the only thing I remember it mentioning is depressing the clutch disengages the transmission and both pedals should be latched when operating in high gear. of course it has a lot of other info concerning maintenance, etc. but i'll check again just to make sure...

 

[son of man]

What kind of a tractrdoyou have? Anytime you shift the tractor to another gear there isa neutral in between gears

Massey Ferguson 1030

 

[Ivan49]

The reason you lock the pedals in high gear is when you are moving if they are not locked and you step onoe pedal you could go for a wild ride and flip over. I don't lock mine unless I am on the road

 

[Dewbie]

If you feel or hear grinding when shifting chances are you probably didn't come to a complete stop. Make sure you're not rolling at all then shift to the next gear.

Someone might correct me because I've never driven a 1030 but I would think you should have a neutral.. Have you tried putting the shifter in the middle where neutral should be? Again I'm just guessing so I could be wrong.

 

[Ivan49]

What is your gear shift like? Do you have reverse in top right and 2nd inn top left then below reverse is 1st gear and 3 rd gear in lower left. neutral is in between reverse and 1st where you slide the lever over to 2nd gear

 

[son of man]

If it were me I would throttle down if I only wanted to slow down.

If I wanted to stop, then press the clutch and then use both brakes if needed.

if you have split brakes, under what condition(s) would you depress both brakes?

 

[whis]

it's got a neutral, son of man doesn't know much about tractors ( not being smartbutt ) You need to go to the dealer or find someone to spent so time with you and teach you a little before you get hurt or hurt someone. if it's a gear tractor and you mash clutch it should roll a little before it stops

 

[son of man]

The reason you lock the pedals in high gear is when you are moving if they are not locked and you step onoe pedal you could go for a wild ride and flip over. I don't lock mine unless I am on the road

yeah, I figured they recommended latching both pedals for that exact reason.

 

[CobyRupert]

if you have split brakes, under what condition(s) would you depress both brakes?

Why do I get the feeling you're pranking us?
... But giving benefit of doubt: Use both brakes when you don't want one brake to spin the tractor sideways. That could be dangerous at higher speeds and tip tractor over.
You must push in the clutch to disengage the engine from turning the wheels every time you stop. Apply brakes only you will either: not stop. Or stall the engine as you've experienced.

Go find somebody that can teach you how to drive a manual and the concepts behind them.
Good luck.

 

[son of man]

The few times it happened I thought I had completely stopped but maybe I was still moving slightly... I don't think I've ever had a reason to put the shifter in the middle. I only have a bush hog. However, I often wondered how I would use different attachments without moving?

 

[Dewbie]

if you have split brakes, under what condition(s) would you depress both brakes?

When you want to come to a complete stop and not vere off to the left or right.

No faster than I normally go out in the field I hardly ever use my brake. I might unlatch my brakes and use my right or left brake to make a turn at the end of a row or when coming to a stop on uneven ground I'll apply both brakes.

Shifting from say 2nd to 3rd I would push clutch in, tractor normally comes to a stop by itself if not I'll hit the brakes, come to a complete stop then shift to 3rd, left off brake then release clutch and off you go. Now if your gears where synchronized you wouldn't have to come to a stop but I'm pretty sure yours are not synchronized.

 

[SPYDERLK]

if you have split brakes, under what condition(s) would you depress both brakes?

When you want to use BOTH brakes. ... Next question?

 

[McREBEL]

if you have split brakes, under what condition(s) would you depress both brakes?

Anytime you want to stop press both brake pedals, but have the clutch pressed first if it is in gear.

I fully agree that it sounds like you would be wise to find someone with a fair amount of tractor experience who can come over to your place, get on your tractor and demonstrate some basics of tractor operation/safety for you. Be careful.

 

[TerryR]

You press one brake when you want to help the tractor turn. You press both when you need brakes to help stop after pressing the clutch in. Locking the brakes together is a good idea when traveling at top speed so you don't accidentally press only one and spin the tractor around. But locking the brakes is a good idea only if the two brakes are adjusted evenly, which may not be the case with a tractor the age of yours. If they aren't adjusted evenly locking them means you are pressing one harder than the other, which will try to make the tractor turn dangerously.

The transmission is exactly like the one in a car, if the car is over 70 years old. Cars of that age, and tractors much more recently, did not have synchronized shifting, which means you, not gadgets in the transmission, have to make the gears turn at the right speed in order to engage them. In a tractor, the easiest way to do that is to stop. In a car or truck you had to learn to do it with some skill.

Terry

 

[son of man]

What is your gear shift like? Do you have reverse in top right and 2nd inn top left then below reverse is 1st gear and 3 rd gear in lower left. neutral is in between reverse and 1st where you slide the lever over to 2nd gear

R 1 3
S 2 4

 

[kydick]

seems as tho you are comparing the tractor to a car with an automatic transmission.

 

[Loadstar]

Wear a larger shoe on your braking foot. Not a high heel or a flip flop.

 

[son of man]

it's got a neutral, son of man doesn't know much about tractors ( not being smartbutt ) You need to go to the dealer or find someone to spent so time with you and teach you a little before you get hurt or hurt someone. if it's a gear tractor and you mash clutch it should roll a little before it stops

what is neutral used for? The previous owner gave me a crash course when I bought it but he wasn't around when I actually drove it home. It's a gear but it doesn't roll when I mash the clutch. I'm on fairly level ground so it immediately stops.