The younger workforce.

[dfkrug]

The Detroit papers have run articles on this over the years. Tuition rates in
Michigan are very high, and some states let you declare residency after 1 year.

I am one of those who paid out-of-state tuition at MSU, and it was in the $40s per credit-hour. I moved
to MI from OH to study physics, and paid my own way. It took 2 years to convince the state to let me
pay in-state tuition. It was easier to get scholarship money. Course, that was 40y ago. I actually
paid off my 7% loans, too, but it took about 5 or 6y.

I shoulda gone to college in California.....

I don't think I know anyone 20-30 yo who actually paid their own way thru school.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

If the slackers don't have the work ethic you just can't make a profit out of them. It's such a shame you can't use the whip any more, to really make 'em learn the meaning of who's boss and what real work means. Boss man sure needs to keep up his living standards up at the big house, yes siree.

Let me guess. You have never put everything you own on the line for your business. That's OK, some of us are Bosses, and some of us are slackers...

 

[stan33]

Let me guess. You have never put everything you own on the line for your business. That's OK, some of us are Bosses, and some of us are slackers...

There are bosses and there are 'slavedrivers', which are you? And if you think the world is only made up of just two types of people, bosses and slackers, then you have very limited vision.

 

[Creamer]

It doesn't pay to give bad recommendations now days. You get sued.
My first W2 wages was when I was 14. Prior to that I worked in gas stations for Dad. No pay just treats.
Never received an allowance growing up. If we wanted something we found a job from neighbors or collected pop bottles for the refund to pay for it. Shoveling snow, mowing grass or loading/unloading firewood.

You just can't say it but you can let them know by how you say it - tone, hems and haws when they ask questions, etc. I will gladly do that for my friends at other companies - now my competitors??????

 

[ultrarunner]

A lot of it is expectations... parents are more willing to give a pass or make excuses.

Many also married younger... I know my friends that married young made them adults overnight... the kids, rent/mortgage... work, health insurance, etc.

I started paying for my own individual Health Insurance and Car Insurance at age 18.

We didn't have Health Insurance growing up and I paid my Dad for Car Insurance prior to 18.

Some of the things would did would be illegal or not even possible... like two 16 year old High School friends driving over Christmas from Oakland CA to Vancouver Canada... he had an uncle in Canada.... renting a motel room, crossing into Canada with a car...

Need I say more than keeping a 26 year old on the family Health Plan?

Here's a few more... driving to the park range with your buddies for target practice.... no one older than age 16.

Opening a bank account at age 12 with the deposit being your official paycheck from a weeks work at $1.65 and hour.

Getting you own credit card at age 16 by convincing the bank branch manager to make an exception because your were working and had a bank account/checking in good standing for 4 years... still with that bank today as are my brothers... my parents never had an account there and never did business with that bank.

Still remember the manager sitting me down and saying if I ran up a bill and decided not to pay... the bank would be out the money and it would come back on him... that $400 credit limit had me walking tall at age 16.

Thing is these were things many of my friends did... well most of them... one of my best friends signed on to can salmon in Alaska at age 16... away from home and came back with real money!

 

[jel1988]

I own and operate a small construction company. The size of my company is limited only by the number of workers I can hire, not the number of sales I could make. Usually by early summer I have pretty much sold out the working year. (work end late Nov. as the ground is frozen). The average age of my workforce is in the mid forties, I have tried everything to hire younger people. The younger they are the less the respect the job and their fellow employees. If a job is scheduled for a four man crew and one of them doesn't show the others have to pick up the slack and they don't care! I know most of my competitors and they have the same problems, in fact one haulage company I deal with has mostly senior citizen employees. They show up on time, work till the job is done without whining . For the last two years we have advertised for 2 entry level employees, qualifications: work boots, safety glasses and a drivers licence starting pay at least $13 with a raise in 60 days. I have also advertised for experienced workers at a higher pay scale and the only response I get is from guys in their late fifties displaced from the Canadian oil patch and would be willing to take a pay cut and work for $40-50 per hour (more than I charge). I want to grow my business and your only as good staff. However, I need people to show up everyday do the work assigned in a reasonable period of time with a professional look. If you don't have the skills I need we'll teach them to you. When young people interview they explain they have good computer skills and describe the job they expect, however that's my job and I'm not ready to give it up!

 

[oldpilgrim]

 

[ultrarunner]

Enjoyed the post ^^^

Here it would be High School kids looking for odd jobs, gardening, hauling and such.

Don't know how it is now... people would call the High School looking for kids to do odd jobs... especially guys that owned a pickup and the Dean of men would keep the list.

One of my friends had a 59 Chevrolet Pickup and he was always busy... on bigger jobs I would help.

A guy with a pickup in High School could always pickup extra money.

 

[flyerdan]

Of course if some kids do show ambition and try to make a bit of scratch with a snow shovel, they'll get shut down by bureaucrats, passing legislation at the behest of the bigger removal outfits. Granted, the story linked is a year old, but I'd wager the ordinance hasn't been repealed.

 

[bigtiller]

Enjoyed the post ^^^

Here it would be High School kids looking for odd jobs, gardening, hauling and such.

Don't know how it is now... people would call the High School looking for kids to do odd jobs... especially guys that owned a pickup and the Dean of men would keep the list.

One of my friends had a 59 Chevrolet Pickup and he was always busy... on bigger jobs I would help.

A guy with a pickup in High School could always pickup extra money.

Oh how I wished our school had something like that. There are so many times some older folks need help moving a dresser or something simple like that.