Solar power & Wind Power for residental use

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   / Solar power & Wind Power for residental use #291  
26 years in nuclear energy production. Control Tech, Green Man and Emergency Response Team.
Would you address the requirement of backup power supplies having to operate to backup wind and solar when they fail? Tell us the costs of a duplicate generating system , with one operating but not making and $$$ to pay the bills for 1/2 of every day and on weekend days.

You are the energy industry guru not me but first my PV system has nearly zero projected maintenance for its life. Likely will replace 1 inverter. Next, with distributed wind and solar throughout the grid they would sort of provide their own backup, but I don't see how that problem is any different than today with traditional power. There will always be ups and downs and our grid structure allows power to get to customers even when the closest plant is offline. Next, given the delta between peak and off peak demand today isn't there already the issue describe of plants sitting idle at times. I contend solar would only help that by reducing the delta. I've said it several times now and you haven't told me why I'm wrong. But really all that is only an issue when renewables reach a much larger percentage of the supply, like Hawaii apparently. We are no were near that in CONUS. As such I can't understand your strict adversity to residential solar.

What is green man?
 
   / Solar power & Wind Power for residental use #292  
Smile, be happy, all is well!
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Was the manager's death by chance a ritual suicide due to "loosing face" ? Apparently that still happens from time to time.
If the units had been allowed to vent hydrogen gas instead the managers not following procedure. The concentrating the H2 above the LEL inside the containment structures would not have occured. The unit damage would have been less without the fuel/air explosions. There are still a few people who think the units suffered a "nuclear explosion" instead of a chemical explosion.
Most people are unaware of just how naturally radioactive some parts of the world is and the local population lives their entire life there with lower than average cancer rates. Yet if somebody finds contamination one or two orders of magnitude lower down wind of a reactor. They absolutely loose their minds in panic.
Everything is radioactive, it just a matter of how much.
 
   / Solar power & Wind Power for residental use #293  
You are the energy industry guru not me but first my PV system has nearly zero projected maintenance for its life. Likely will replace 1 inverter. Next, with distributed wind and solar throughout the grid they would sort of provide their own backup, but I don't see how that problem is any different than today with traditional power. There will always be ups and downs and our grid structure allows power to get to customers even when the closest plant is offline. Next, given the delta between peak and off peak demand today isn't there already the issue describe of plants sitting idle at times. I contend solar would only help that by reducing the delta. I've said it several times now and you haven't told me why I'm wrong. But really all that is only an issue when renewables reach a much larger percentage of the supply, like Hawaii apparently. We are no were near that in CONUS. As such I can't understand your strict adversity to residential solar.

What is green man?

Hawaii generation is turbo diesel and gas turbine. Both units have much lower initial cost and lower operating efficiency than a typical steam boiler fossil generator station. The diesel and gas turbine are fast and simple to ramp up and down in power vs a steam boiler. Along with wholesale grid rates of 25+ cents per Kw/hr. The diesel and turbine can make enough power and $$$ to pay for themselves with 2-4 hours in the morning and 4-6hr in the evening 5 days a week.
A conventional base load fossil plant can generate for 4-6 cents per Kw/hr if operated 24/7.
Hence Hawaii can make a case for solar to trim the 6-8hr mid day demand and actually save $$$.
On the mainland with a full distribution grid with baseload power. Wind and solar can not exist without being subsidized against 4-6 cent Kw/hr power. . And by taking operating revenue away from base load plants when they used to pay the bills with power generated from morning to a couple hours after sunset 5 to 7 days a week, Now base load generation revenue is cut to a few hours in the early AM and late PM five days a week. Running the baseload generation into the ground now is going to cause higher power prices in the future. In particular when NG prices rebound in a few years.
it costs money to keep conventional generation online and revenue is reduced when backing up subsidized wind and solar.
In addition to several pages of electrical, fire alarm and instrument qualifications. I was on the ERT for 10 years, four years as a Captain. High angle rescue, haz mat, advanced 1st aid, fire fighting all four classes. Most industry doesn't have burning metal. In addition the Green badge radiation qualifications. The quals allow measuring of fixed and loose surface and airborne contamination. Detection of Alpha, Beta, Tritium,Gamma and Neutron radiation with over a dozen different meters. Choice of and doning of radiation protection clothing for myself and up to 20 additional works. Writing rad protection plans , adding workers to the plan and supervising these workers. Decontamination, writing reports after taking surveys etc.
I work with electricity, fire and radiation and what is dangerous and what is hysteria from the media on a slow news day or bogus reports from Lobby groups looking to scare up more $$$ donations.
 
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   / Solar power & Wind Power for residental use #294  
Was the manager's death by chance a ritual suicide due to "loosing face" ? Apparently that still happens from time to time.

The manager died of cancer caused by him staying in the hot zone too long, trying to save people. :mad:
 
   / Solar power & Wind Power for residental use #295  
Was the manager's death by chance a ritual suicide due to "loosing face" ? Apparently that still happens from time to time.
If the units had been allowed to vent hydrogen gas instead the managers not following procedure. The concentrating the H2 above the LEL inside the containment structures would not have occured. The unit damage would have been less without the fuel/air explosions. There are still a few people who think the units suffered a "nuclear explosion" instead of a chemical explosion.
Most people are unaware of just how naturally radioactive some parts of the world is and the local population lives their entire life there with lower than average cancer rates. Yet if somebody finds contamination one or two orders of magnitude lower down wind of a reactor. They absolutely loose their minds in panic.
Everything is radioactive, it just a matter of how much.

On the Death Cancer was mentioned eh.
It happened; what if's don't mean much after the event.
How much may be the question. How mucih is too much?
Seems the "How Much" has been increasing lately. Seems it exceeds Japanese standards!
Chances are areas of higher radiation with increased cancer rates can be found. Radon gas situations come to mind.


On the Japanese Nuclear situation.
[video]http://www.globalresearch.ca/nuclear-apocalypse-in-japan/23764[/video]

I would think the type of reactor would be a significant item in Safety.
 
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   / Solar power & Wind Power for residental use #296  
Are you familiar with chemical battery theory and construction ? In brief various elements make better rechargeable + & (-) plates in a battery. We are already using the most elective materials and thus battery tech is maxed out. The only way to manufacture superior batteries is if the Almighty makes us some new elements.
As for radioactive, everything is radioactive naturally. It's a matter of how much. depending on who you ask , is what is dangerous levels. btw when you stay out in the sun too long and burn your skin red. That is radiation from a nuclear fusion furnace that just dosed your skin to that level of damage. Are you concerned, nope. Yet the 10's of thousands of times less dose from background has people all panicked.
B&D, I will disagree with you here if you think battery technology is already maxxed out.
 
   / Solar power & Wind Power for residental use #297  
On the residential level solar doesn't compete at 4-6 cents per kWhr because that's not what residential customers are being charged. I was at 15.5 headed to 19 before gas prices dropped last year. Under my net metering agreement I can only produce as much as I use yearly and anything over that goes to the grid for free. I don't consider that a subsidy. The $2500 tax credit sure is and I have no problem with that. I make a good living and have no kids, I've paid plenty of taxes. Even with the credit I'm sure I paid in more this year than many.
 
   / Solar power & Wind Power for residental use #298  
The manager died of cancer caused by him staying in the hot zone too long, trying to save people. :mad:

It is impossible to identify the cause of a specific cancer. Even a life long smoker who dies of lung cancer may have a different cause because some non-smokers get lung cancer. No one in Japan has received enough radiation to create a statistically significant increase in the chance of cancers. In the Japanese system probably almost all of the managers involved in the Fukushima event are now over 60. A significant portion of them will die from cancer, independent of any specific factors.

The efforts to "save people" at Fukushima occurred due to the flooding, prior to the events at the nuclear plant and completely unrelated to radiation. The manager in question just made the correct decision to continue cooling when others suggested turning off the cooling water. He received no significant radiation. He died of esophogael cancer which had never been identified as being specifically radiation related like leukemia and thyroid cancer.

Be careful of these scare stories. The real scientists (who we trust on climate change but not about nuclear) have intensively studied Hiroshima, Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima and concluded the Fukushima effects are below detectable.
 
   / Solar power & Wind Power for residental use #299  
B&D, I will disagree with you here if you think battery technology is already maxxed out.

I agree.
To believe otherwise, one would also believe nothing else new will happen either.

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   / Solar power & Wind Power for residental use #300  
The manager died of cancer caused by him staying in the hot zone too long, trying to save people. :mad:

He wasn't saving anybody. It was a "noble death" to try and save face. For cutting corners in the operation and for not venting a little hydrogen to save a lot of damage.
 
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