Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix.

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Fernland

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I was using pallet forks to turns debris pile will I noticed one side of the quick attach was not hooked....

Did I bend the mount? Can it be fixed or.....?
 

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   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix. #3  
Been there, done that. Unfortunately, this happens more often than you like. I bungee cord my levers down to keep this from happening. The timing bar between your plates is twisted, some people push one side on a tree to twist the bar back, but this is hard on cylinders and seals. I cut my bar with a saws-all and aligned the plates and welded it back, ground it down, repainted it and you would never know mine was almost 3" out.
 

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   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix.
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Looks like you can put the side that's extended up against something solid and use your loader forward tilt to straighten it back out.
 
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I tried to torque it back, I feel I would damage loader arms before I ever got it to move.

Now I need to find a place to cut and weld...

In the future I will set something up like KubotaToy...
 

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   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix. #7  
I tried to torque it back, I feel I would damage loader arms before I ever got it to move.

Now I need to find a place to cut and weld...

In the future I will set something up like KubotaToy...

It should not be very difficult to cut and re-weld. It is something even a hack welder like me could do. if you weren't so dang far away I would do it for you for nothing. I would take the sawzall to it, and then bevel the cut ends down and take a piece of angle iron and clamp it good to each piece to maintain alignment, and start tacking it around. Then skip weld around it (to even out the heat stress) until it was closed up while moving the angle iron and clamps around. Hopefully all would still be aligned when I was done. I sure would give it a try.
 
   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix. #8  
Looks like the damage is minimal that's a good thing and should be a reasonable repair. If you don't have a welder looks like you could MAYBE get away with cutting the tube in the center sliding a pipe over it full length then drill and put a couple bolts threw it on either side.
 
   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix. #9  
If you don't have a welder looks like you could MAYBE get away with cutting the tube
in the center sliding a pipe over it full length then drill and put a couple bolts threw it on either side.

Even if you DO have a welder, your approach has some advantages. When you tweak the loader again,
one of your bolts should shear, rather than twisting up a welded timing bar.

That is how John Deere does it: the timing bar is only a 1" steel rod, and shear bolts hold it to each side
of the quick-attach arms. some folks shear them, then don't even repair them as the 2 sides can
move independently, pivoting without damage.
 
   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix. #10  
That is how John Deere does it: the timing bar is only a 1" steel rod, and shear bolts hold it to each side
of the quick-attach arms. some folks shear them, then don't even repair them as the 2 sides can
move independently, pivoting without damage.
They may be able to pivot without damage, but I would think hook up with the arms out of time would be a PITA.
 
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Thanks K0ua, I'll be there Tuesday, leaving now...

Just for fun I tried to torque it using weight...didn't even flex.
 

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   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix. #12  
Thanks K0ua, I'll be there Tuesday, leaving now...

Just for fun I tried to torque it using weight...didn't even flex.

Come on down..
 
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Pics from the last one I fixed, don't know how but the "before" shots are awol.

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   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix. #14  
They may be able to pivot without damage, but I would think hook up with the arms out of time would be a PITA.

Actually it isn't a PITA. You just put the quick attach against the bucket and push with either the tractor or the hydraulics until everything is lined up. The op is having more of a pain than that!

To the op: I would put the quick attach back on the tractor and chain the one side to the fel frame and use the force of the hydraulics to straighten the frame
 
   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix. #15  
To the op: I would put the quick attach back on the tractor and chain the one side to the fel frame and use the force of the hydraulics to straighten the frame

This does not work usually.
 
   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix. #16  
Actually it isn't a PITA. You just put the quick attach against the bucket and push with either the tractor or the hydraulics until everything is lined up. The op is having more of a pain than that! ...

I have to agree there. I don't know if I sheared a bolt early on, or if I even have a timing rod. It is too dark to go out and look right now. I have never had an issue getting an implement on the FEL, and mine are always out of timing if I don't have an implement attached. I never knew they were supposed to be in time.
 
   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix. #17  
They may be able to pivot without damage, but I would think hook up with the
arms out of time would be a PITA.

It's not too bad. I have tried it both ways. Since you tip the top parts in first, the first side to touch
stops moving, and the other one catches up.

Sometimes, I wish my Kioti had QA....
 
   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix. #18  
This does not work usually.

Well a person would want to be careful doing it so that other parts don't get bent up but I don't see why it wouldn't work as it was the hydraulics that bent the frame in the first place!
 
   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix. #19  
Well a person would want to be careful doing it so that other parts don't get bent up but I don't see why it wouldn't work as it was the hydraulics that bent the frame in the first place!

No.

There was a mechanical advantage involved, bucket or pallet forks or grapple or bale spear or what ever else, when it was bent. The hydraulics did not do the bending. The side that bent is the side that stayed latched.

Torque from all the lifting, digging, ect, on one side of the QA is what bends it.
 
   / Crud, what did I break/bend and how do I fix. #20  
That sleeve idea seemed to be an option . Question - could you just cut and sleeve and use two shear bolts to hole the sleeve in place. The next time the bolts will shear and all you do is replace them. No welding required?

I wish my Bobcat had the round tube. Mine is square and I need to re twerk it to get my bucket level (one side is a few inches higher when on the ground). and yes I have chained one side down and racked it using the hydraulics to re bend but no go. Right now I shim the QA on one side to help level.
 

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