Trusses delivered - problems

   / Trusses delivered - problems
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Your GC apparently has done more that a few buildings in his/her career and most likely has seen worse (never seen a pole barn go up in perfect conditions nor have I ever seen a truss that I would want to stain/varnish...they use "junk" lumber to build them but the engineering is such that it works. That is the beauty of trusses...using "junk" instead of long length straight timber that would require posts in your span unless you really want to open up your wallet. Been watching this story for a while...I'd say trust your GC.

Yeah the GC has been fabulous. I did not see it going on as I was at my day job.... they installed the windows in the barn in the wrong place. Called the guy at the home office I am working with and he admitted his crew screwed it up. Unfortunately for them the steel exterior had been put up and cut. So they are going to move the window to its correct location and send a new piece of steel to put up.
 
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Yeah the GC has been fabulous. I did not see it going on as I was at my day job.... they installed the windows in the barn in the wrong place. Called the guy at the home office I am working with and he admitted his crew screwed it up. Unfortunately for them the steel exterior had been put up and cut. So they are going to move the window to its correct location and send a new piece of steel to put up.
Funny you would mention that...my builder goofed up the windows also. He built the wall sections in his shop and trucked them here. Steel was cut/fit on site so we could have modified the window locations before the steel went on if we wanted to bother. We didn't. Everything is just fine (and I hardly even notice that there are windows there anyway).
 
   / Trusses delivered - problems #73  
I have not seen them. I will try to get pics when I get home if the light allows. My understanding is that they were just pushed off the end of the truck and not set on anything.

To say the builder is mad at the truss sub contractor is an understatement. He said the truss company is going to lose a lot of money on this job as they will likely have to redeliver some new trusses. Likely not all of them but the ones on the bottom.

Moving them will not be an option it is for a 60x140 barn and a 36x72 barn and all the trusses are in one stack.

They are on flat ground. The difference in elevation between one end of the pile and the other end is probably measured in inches.


If your contractor is mad he must have a reason. I have had trusses laid flat like that and although they were slightly off kilter the building ended up looking great. I had to cleat 1 2x4 onto one of the rafters to get the plywood secured
 
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If your contractor is mad he must have a reason. I have had trusses laid flat like that and although they were slightly off kilter the building ended up looking great. I had to cleat 1 2x4 onto one of the rafters to get the plywood secured

Lol just figured out one reason he is mad. They rented a forklift. It was capable of actin as the crane to set the smaller trusses. They had that done in one day. They had to keep the forklift an extra day to move the larger trusses so they are now next to the building site. So that was an expense they were not anticipating in their bid.

Also they know I am going to ask them to repair all the deep tire tracks that are in my field now.
 
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It's always an adventure dealing with contractors. Homeowners are most vulnerable as they do the least amount of paperwork (contracts, plans, specifications, etc) and have the least leverage compared to larger commercial jobs or government jobs.

Sounds to me like this one is being pretty reasonable all things considered.
 
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It's always an adventure dealing with contractors. Homeowners are most vulnerable as they do the least amount of paperwork (contracts, plans, specifications, etc) and have the least leverage compared to larger commercial jobs or government jobs.

Sounds to me like this one is being pretty reasonable all things considered.
Already noted in this thread somewhere that the pole-barn business in "fly-over country" is very competitive (I think we have 5-6 companies around here that have been around for a long time) and for the most part relies on "word of mouth" (in Wisconsin that would probably be "tavern talk"). Reality is they all do the same thing in the same way...they are pretty simple structures but one bad job might ruin them forever.
 
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I found it was on occasion an adventure dealing with home owners.
 
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I found it was on occasion an adventure dealing with home owners.

The most "adventurous" are the ones with just a modicum of previous or casual experience...IMO...
 
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Already noted in this thread somewhere that the pole-barn business in "fly-over country" is very competitive (I think we have 5-6 companies around here that have been around for a long time) and for the most part relies on "word of mouth" (in Wisconsin that would probably be "tavern talk"). Reality is they all do the same thing in the same way...they are pretty simple structures but one bad job might ruin them forever.
Mostly, I agree with what you have said. You will find differences in how they build however. Fastener sizes, air nails, hammered nails, clipped head vs full head, fastener type with PT lumber, nail patterns, blocking to support purlins that in turn help support trusses, vertical roof purlins vs "flat" roof purlins, PT lumber grade and/or treatment type, steel gauge, uplift ressitance on the posts, poured post pads vs precast, concrete around the posts or not, glue lam posts vs full PT, screw length and pattern, yadda, yadda, yadda. There is indeed a difference.

When it comes to pole barns, do not expect anything not in writing. Steel quage, trim, rat guard, overhangs, ridge vent, eave vents, door hardware, top and bottom, etc., etc. Your best bet is to ask to see other area barns built by the same builder if you are new at this.

Though I have seen alot of barns go up, it never ceases to amaze me how fast a good crew is. There is a barn going up near me that is maybe 40x80x16 high. It has gone from bundles of lumber on the ground last week to most of the tin on this afternoon. Hint: there are a number of workers with straw hats and women with bonnets serving up food among other chores. Tough to compete with that.
 
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I found it was on occasion an adventure dealing with home owners.
yeah...well...offered to fix a garage window for a suit/tie guy I worked with on our lunch hour...had no tools because I didn't know we were doing it. Asked for a screw-driver and he produced something that might have been a proper screw-driver in a previous life. Asked for a hammer and I think he found something from a Fisher Price toy box. Asked for a tape measure to measure the glass and he found his wife's flexible sewing tape. Years ago I bought my wife a basic set of tools (wrenches, sockets, screw drivers, hammer, pliers etc.) for Christmas (didn't set to well at the time but all is well now...I even bought her a cordless drill last year and she loves it). She has become very proficient on construction matters. We finished out this house together...drywall taping, extensive tiling, laminate flooring, doors and trim, etc. I already knew about construction stuff and that nothing is ever "perfect" but can be made to get close...she caught on pretty quickly.
 

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