California Drought

   / California Drought #321  
Here's an interesting video of the Washington Scablands. Unrelated to Oroville, but flooding on a huge scale.

Channeled Scablands of Washington State (Patrick Stewart) - YouTube

Thanks for the link. I'll be sending it on....and spending a lot of time watching the other clips that are listed with it.

Fascinating area. I am about 30 miles fromthe center of one of the main outflow channels. Driventhrough it many times, even was a rod-man on a usgs crew running level lines up one channel.
 
   / California Drought #322  
That's not very likely, tall dams require really long fish ladders. If they had built one on Grand Coulee dam it would have been over twenty miles long and required more concrete than the dam itself. The Oroville dam is taller than Grand Coulee....

How about a fish elevator then?
 
   / California Drought #323  
How about a fish elevator then?

Wouldn't work......fish don't have fingers or thumbs to push the buttons......they'd never be able to get off.
 
   / California Drought #324  
Wouldn't work......fish don't have fingers or thumbs to push the buttons......they'd never be able to get off.
Well maybe an escalator? Wouldn't want them to get worn out climbing a 700' ladder.
 
   / California Drought #326  
There should be no exceptional or extreme drought in CA after this last round of storms. So much for the dire predictions of 100 years without appreciable rains and the sky is falling we're all gonna die chicken little forecasts. How many times can scientists be wrong and still keep their jobs? Sure, they'll couch their positions with percentages and all kinds of excuses when they're proven wrong. I wish someone would take them to task once in awhile.

Kevin
All this rain does NOT help the wells, it is all surface water.
Aquafers still at critical levels, that is what they were talking about.
 
   / California Drought #327  
Look at it this way, Oroville went from empty to full in one big storm. Another similar storm sends the entire volume over the spillways main and emergency. That's scary.
 
   / California Drought #328  
Just got back from a quick motorcycle trip down to Death Valley and ran the state route 70 corridor between Oroville and Marysville both directions. There was a LOT of water in the lowlands on both sides of the road on the way down, and a LOT MORE yesterday on the way back. But from what I could see it was all flood plain crop land and not much damage was being done to homes and the like. Farther south toward Sacramento and beyond the ground is covered in places and puddles abound, but again not much of any bad flooding. Heck, it even rained in Death Valley for two of the days I was there, filling many low spots on Highway 190 with enough water to interrupt traffic at times and leaving a thick layer of mud that required heavy equipment to remove. But through all this the folks running the Oroville Dam did get the water level down to the 850' level and are holding it there through the storms that are coming in now. Part of the reason is that these storms haven't generated the 140,000 CFS inflows that helped trigger the problems at the dam in the first place, the other part is with the main spillway damage pretty much written off, they won't hesitate to raise outflows as necessary to keep the water levels in check.

As for the California Drought, the topic we're all supposed to be discussing in this thread, the official classification maps show almost all of Northern California has recovered and is no longer in drought, while much of the southern state still suffers some effects. One wet winter like the one we're having now isn't going to cure the drought, especially since drought is a natural part of the state's climate. The DWR has a long way to go in establishing realistic water use guidelines, and an even tougher row to hoe in getting anyone here to pay attention to them. But that's what it's gonna take before we can shrug off the effects of drought, an "inconvenient truth" that most don't want to hear.
 
   / California Drought #329  
   / California Drought #330  
'Oroville Dam Workers' were employed by the contractor making the emergency repairs. They violated that employer's longstanding policy against making social media posts re their projects.

They weren't employed by the dam. If anyone interpreted this Fox news as a coverup - no.

So you're blaming those dam contractors?
 

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