HST vs Manual trans

[Sawyer Rob]

You guys that complain about the whine of a HST should operate a Cockshutt 30 for a bit! :d

WHY? I'd rather NOT torture myself with either one!

My neighbor lost the pump ($1,000.000 repair bill) on his hystat tractor and was told it was because he wasn't running the engine fast enough as he used it. He likes to run at lower rpms... I told him when he bought it that he needed to keep the rpms up, but he didn't listen...

I'm the same way, I prefer to keep the rpms down, and I've never had that cost me any repairs on a gear drive tractor...

SR

 

[bckskin2]

The reason I asked is the 3X3 are getting harder to find. I have been using a NH TC30 with a 3X3 since '04 before I had a 4 speed Ferguson. I use my wife's JD with a HST to mow some and do not care it. I just get the "cruse" set and it is time to change. I love my ZTR with HST .

 

[LouNY]

I like both gear and hydro's for different reasons, I can remember when we got our first hydro a IH 656 gasser, real nice for light work, wasn't very good for drawbar working, used more gas the the Ford 8000 used fuel per hour. Then a IH Hydro 100, really nice for PTO working, not so nice for drawbar use. Presently the only hydro's we have are on lawn tractors, my 8050 has a power shuttle which is nice. On a sub compact or compact used for light drawbar loads and generally light work with considerable loader work use the hydro's. Just be sure to perform the proper maintenance, fluid and filters because that hydro is going to be one heck of an expense when it goes, a lot more then a clutch job.

 

[oldpilgrim]

As the last guy said hst is no good, weak and expensive to fix as they break all the time.

That's why commercial skid steers, dozers and excavators use them, so there can be a lot of expensive down time for the businesses that own them.

That was sarcasm.

 

[CincyFlyer]

I have to agree with your dad on the transmission I always have hated the automatic trans in a truck and every year no matter how hard they try to build one I like they still cant build one I want to own. Power brakes, power steering, 4 wheel disks compared to the old days I will take. Just get rid of the drive by wire and the auto tranny and I would be happy.
I still own some very old cars that don't have power brakes, over the years for safety I have added updated dual reservoir master cylinders but honestly cant say that I ever had a problem getting them cars to a stop no matter the situation. A truck and the weights we are pulling is however a different story. Power steering is nice and anyone who has ever driven a old car and honestly remembers how much turning in tight spaces could be required, would appreciate the ease of it compared. I must however point out that we did get along just fine without it and for the most part it kept the bad drivers off the road but today we build cars that they can barely drive and they just go get in our way. Maybe we should regress just a little and get the rubbish out from behind the wheel!

So you'd rather burn more fuel, pollute more air, and accelerate more slowly, just for the privilege of shifting it yourself? I could see that in a Miata, but not a truck with eight thousand pounds of stuff being pulled.

 

[arrow]

So after 5 pages and you can see opinions are all over the place once again, this should give you a hint. This is not a cut and dried question such as "do you like to puke or do you prefer not to"? It is a matter of personal preference. Some tractors do very well with hst and others not so much. To make up power differences for heavy work, get the higher hp tractor that has hst. If you like lower rpm's and the bit more quiet they bring while doing work, get a geared. A geared tractor transfers it's energy with more efficiency. This becomes advantageous with heavy work using ground engaging equipment.
Some tractors use a treadle on their hst's while others have separate pedals for back and forth. The bottom line is this, you need to start experiencing some of these differences to pick out which you like best. Go to dealers and try out both types. How you're wired will tell you which to get.

 

[big bubba]

being a compact tractor forum w/most members using tractors for homeowner use (& many in retirement w/varying med conditions), it only makes sense that the majority would favor hst for good reason.

although i don't by any means earn my living off my 127 acre mountain farm, i elected to go w/ the heavier duty M series for reasons i won't bore you with. i did get the hyd shuttle for obvious reasons, esp for repeated fel use, etc. love that feature as with fully synchro 12 sp manual transmission. not having knee problems or other physical constraints, feel that for me, my set up is the best of 2 worlds.

as mentioned, we are fortunate to have a lot of choices in the various line of models to fit customer needs. worthwhile discussion here.
best regards

 

[Zippster]

Love my shuttle, my father has a Kubota hst that I used for years but bought my TYM as a shuttle, not even so much about the slight increase in price, I just prefer the clutch and feel to it all.

 

[Tractorable]

What do you guys think about the new "integrated Hydro-Mechanical Transmission" (I-HMT) in the new Yanmar YT3 series tractors?

More efficient than a HST, and the entire transmission unit slides out the back of the tractor if/when it ever needs servicing.

New innovative technology? Or just a new twist on old technology?

 

[CincyFlyer]

What do you guys think about the new "integrated Hydro-Mechanical Transmission" (I-HMT) in the new Yanmar YT3 series tractors?

More efficient than a HST, and the entire transmission unit slides out the back of the tractor if/when it ever needs servicing.

New innovative technology? Or just a new twist on old technology?

Probably similar to the single-clutch transmissions used in some older sports cars (before the double-clutch became the thing.) Or similar to an F1 transmission.