Yes but was that after tax and also insurance factored in? Anyone know what a fair price on the ck2510 hst would be? I don't think they have the 2610 in stock, 2510 suits my needs and I'm looking to buy over the next week. The rotary mower I'm looking at was 850, factored into the price I listed above.
Kioti CS2410 vs Kioti CK2510
- Thread starter stcroix
- Start date
- Views: 26785
-
- Tags
- kioti ck2510 kioti cs2410
southernAL
Gold Member
I own a ck2510, and really like it. If I were you I would definitely get the 2510. You probably would be better off with the ck2610 just because of the 3 range hst vs 2 range.
That was the tractor price tax would be 9% and the hst range selector was sticky. I wanted the 2510 however my legs were way too long. I am about to go with an LS. Go check out the ls xj2025 it is nice and cheaper then Kioti. I decided to go bigger and am going with the xg3025.
Hmm I definitely have some thinking to do. I'm going to a Kuboda and LS dealer in the morning, they are both an hour away. The Kioti dealer is 10 minutes. Is it worth overpaying a bit (if he doesn't go down) for the luxury of a close dealer? I'll look at options closer to 30hp too.
N2DFire
Platinum Member
I'm coming in kind of late so I'm only quoting one post but I'd like to address several points.
1) I'm not the type to force a brand so I say go look, test drive, and see what feels good to you (We looked at New Holland & Massey Ferguson but Dad just couldn't get comfortable on them - 6' + w/ leg mobility issues). There is nothing wrong with Kubota & LS. When we were shopping Kubota was just too pricey compared to the others for what you got & LS just didn't have any dealers close enough for us to look at in person (now there's one in our county).
2) The importance of Dealer location is directly proportional to how mechanically inclined you are & what kind of area you have to work. If you're comfortable doing your own work, then having a dealer farther away isn't a big deal. The dealer we purchased from (not the closest one either) is around 100 miles / 2 hours away. Haven't seen him since he delivered the tractor & only talked to him once since then via e-mail but if I need him he's just a phone call or email away. Oh and we have about 170+ problem free hours on the tractor so far. (And just to be fair I will fully admit that Dad & I do all the work on the farm equipment but I take my truck to the dealership for Oil Changes
It's a matter of economics & convenience rather than ability but I do understand the convenience of having a dealer close by..)
3) If for nothing else than your piece of mind - call Reedy Creek Equipment 3729 N NC Hwy 150 Lexington NC 27295 phone336)787-5241 email: reedycreekequip@gmail.com and let him give you a quote as well. (No I am not affiliated nor do I get kickbacks - just a good "mom & pop" company I have dealt with) You will then know how close your dealer is in fair pricing.
4) Marking your pastures - We have a CK35 with loaded Ag tires and unless I get really aggressive with the turns, I hardly even notice where it crossed the pasture. Even aggressive tight turns (without split brakes - gear model only) barely leave marks and those usually disappear with-in a couple days.
5) Size - Very seldom do any of us ever come here & say I wish I had bought a smaller tractor. With that in mind consider this:
CK2510 vs CK3510 (Both HST)
The CK is 6" wider, 6" longer wheelbase, and less than 500 lbs heavier. If you have low hanging obstacles (and who doesn't) the 3510 is about 1.5 feet taller
Looking at them sitting side by side I'm sure you could see the differences, actually using them in the field you'd most likely never notice. The other benefit is the higher PTO HP will let you run a larger Cutter.
And with not that much more weight - marking your pastures shouldn't really be that much different between the two.
6) You said you were looking at a 4' cutter. I would suggest 5' even if you stay with the 2510. The actual width will depend on which tires you end up with (Ag vs Industrial) but a 4' cutter will NOT cover the width of a 2510. That means trying to mow near buildings, fences, etc that your tires will be closer than the mower and you'll end up with a wider uncut border. Getting a cutter wider than your tractor will let you mow closer to objects because it gives you the offset needed to get the mower close and the tractor away from the object. We have a 5' Cutter but we also have the Ag tires / wheels and have them set to max width so 5' just barely gets to the tire edge and most of the time I use the sway bars to set the 3pt off to the right a couple inches and do my close work from that side.
7) You said you had some tight places to mow. If you don't already have a cutter, then look into a side shifting flail mower. They stick out behind you way less than a rotary cutter which makes turning in tight quarters much easier and the side shift will let you get much closer to objects you have to mow around. (Another disclaimer - No I don't have a flail mower but we already had 3 rotary cutters when we bought this tractor. If I had to start from nothing, I'd get a flail instead. If I ever hit the lottery, I'm going to get a flail anyway. lol)
I hope this has given you some good fodder for thought & not muddied the waters even further.
Good luck with your purchase.
1) I'm not the type to force a brand so I say go look, test drive, and see what feels good to you (We looked at New Holland & Massey Ferguson but Dad just couldn't get comfortable on them - 6' + w/ leg mobility issues). There is nothing wrong with Kubota & LS. When we were shopping Kubota was just too pricey compared to the others for what you got & LS just didn't have any dealers close enough for us to look at in person (now there's one in our county).
2) The importance of Dealer location is directly proportional to how mechanically inclined you are & what kind of area you have to work. If you're comfortable doing your own work, then having a dealer farther away isn't a big deal. The dealer we purchased from (not the closest one either) is around 100 miles / 2 hours away. Haven't seen him since he delivered the tractor & only talked to him once since then via e-mail but if I need him he's just a phone call or email away. Oh and we have about 170+ problem free hours on the tractor so far. (And just to be fair I will fully admit that Dad & I do all the work on the farm equipment but I take my truck to the dealership for Oil Changes
It's a matter of economics & convenience rather than ability but I do understand the convenience of having a dealer close by..)3) If for nothing else than your piece of mind - call Reedy Creek Equipment 3729 N NC Hwy 150 Lexington NC 27295 phone
336)787-5241 email: reedycreekequip@gmail.com and let him give you a quote as well. (No I am not affiliated nor do I get kickbacks - just a good "mom & pop" company I have dealt with) You will then know how close your dealer is in fair pricing.4) Marking your pastures - We have a CK35 with loaded Ag tires and unless I get really aggressive with the turns, I hardly even notice where it crossed the pasture. Even aggressive tight turns (without split brakes - gear model only) barely leave marks and those usually disappear with-in a couple days.
5) Size - Very seldom do any of us ever come here & say I wish I had bought a smaller tractor. With that in mind consider this:
CK2510 vs CK3510 (Both HST)
The CK is 6" wider, 6" longer wheelbase, and less than 500 lbs heavier. If you have low hanging obstacles (and who doesn't) the 3510 is about 1.5 feet taller
Looking at them sitting side by side I'm sure you could see the differences, actually using them in the field you'd most likely never notice. The other benefit is the higher PTO HP will let you run a larger Cutter.
And with not that much more weight - marking your pastures shouldn't really be that much different between the two.
6) You said you were looking at a 4' cutter. I would suggest 5' even if you stay with the 2510. The actual width will depend on which tires you end up with (Ag vs Industrial) but a 4' cutter will NOT cover the width of a 2510. That means trying to mow near buildings, fences, etc that your tires will be closer than the mower and you'll end up with a wider uncut border. Getting a cutter wider than your tractor will let you mow closer to objects because it gives you the offset needed to get the mower close and the tractor away from the object. We have a 5' Cutter but we also have the Ag tires / wheels and have them set to max width so 5' just barely gets to the tire edge and most of the time I use the sway bars to set the 3pt off to the right a couple inches and do my close work from that side.
7) You said you had some tight places to mow. If you don't already have a cutter, then look into a side shifting flail mower. They stick out behind you way less than a rotary cutter which makes turning in tight quarters much easier and the side shift will let you get much closer to objects you have to mow around. (Another disclaimer - No I don't have a flail mower but we already had 3 rotary cutters when we bought this tractor. If I had to start from nothing, I'd get a flail instead. If I ever hit the lottery, I'm going to get a flail anyway. lol)
I hope this has given you some good fodder for thought & not muddied the waters even further.
Good luck with your purchase.
Thanks again everyone for chiming in, and apologies for posting this thread in the wrong forum (didn't notice the kioti specific forum).
I went with the CK3510 HST from the dealer 10 minutes away. Price checked a few Kioti dealers nearby and he beat them by over 1k on the before tax quote. I like that Kioti is headquartered in my state and I have a dealer 10 minutes, and another an hour down the road. This is my first tractor so im still learning how to work on it myself, so that will be helpful. Decided the 3510 would probably suit me in the long run as I dont want to wish for a bigger tractor 10 years down the road.
I went with a 5' bush hob as suggested and its working great!
I went with the CK3510 HST from the dealer 10 minutes away. Price checked a few Kioti dealers nearby and he beat them by over 1k on the before tax quote. I like that Kioti is headquartered in my state and I have a dealer 10 minutes, and another an hour down the road. This is my first tractor so im still learning how to work on it myself, so that will be helpful. Decided the 3510 would probably suit me in the long run as I dont want to wish for a bigger tractor 10 years down the road.
I went with a 5' bush hob as suggested and its working great!
N2DFire
Platinum Member
Thanks again everyone for chiming in, and apologies for posting this thread in the wrong forum (didn't notice the kioti specific forum).
I went with the CK3510 HST from the dealer 10 minutes away. Price checked a few Kioti dealers nearby and he beat them by over 1k on the before tax quote. I like that Kioti is headquartered in my state and I have a dealer 10 minutes, and another an hour down the road. This is my first tractor so im still learning how to work on it myself, so that will be helpful. Decided the 3510 would probably suit me in the long run as I dont want to wish for a bigger tractor 10 years down the road.
I went with a 5' bush hob as suggested and its working great!
No worries you're in the right place.
And congrats!! You're going to love it. Now you just need to update your tractor in your profile
Oh and pictures - everybody loves pictures!bckskin2
Member
I have mowed my pastures with a NH TC30 and 6" finish mower with no problem. I am thinking of replacing it with a CK3510
IH3444
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Jan 10, 2004
- Messages
- 2,115
Great choice. look at how nicely the front bucket is designed for holding a heaping of material. These are not the Kiotis of 10 years ago, Kioti has come along way, and surpassed many in design. They have listened to their customers and added features without big cost increase. They are trying harder, and smarter, and delivering a better product than in years past. Glad you went with the bigger frame tractor, you will be very happy a year from now. If you get a chance could you post a picture of the hood open, and the injection pump, and regenerative arrangement of the soot collector. Thanks!
