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His Splitfire is both hydraulic and it has a 4-way edge on it. It splits when the cylinder is extending and splits when the cylinder is retracting. The cylinder itself is down below. Theoretically it would be twice as fast as a regular splitter with a 4 way edge but that is theory. There is no vertical position to these, just horizontal.

I don't see how it would be much faster. 12" wood and under I push through the 4 way once and it takes me longer to get another stick of wood than it does to cycle. It might be a little faster on big wood, but I still spend a lot more time moving split pieces and rolling rounds than actually splitting. I'd think any time savings are going to be spent digging the splitter out at the end of the day.
 
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I don't see how it would be much faster. 12" wood and under I push through the 4 way once and it takes me longer to get another stick of wood than it does to cycle. It might be a little faster on big wood, but I still spend a lot more time moving split pieces and rolling rounds than actually splitting. I'd think any time savings are going to be spent digging the splitter out at the end of the day.

Right. Hence my question if it is really 2x faster. Theory says yes, practically it may be different.
 
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The last stump was bigger than I thought the trailer's wood sides could take, so I decided to go at it with the other tractor's FEL & some improvised ballast:

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Baby Grand, I was about to suggest the "you need a grapple" line, but apparently you get by just fine without one! Very nice indeed!!!! :thumbsup:


Nice. Is it really twice as productive and what were you using before the spitfire? Do you you need to split much that you can't easily lift onto the table or do you use your FEL to do that?
I think the first question about 'is it really twice as productive' is hard to answer without comparing to something specific??? Twice as productive as what? It's not as productive as a firewood processor, but it's more productive than any splitter I've used before. I was using a 3 point hitch version before, it was the type that pushes the wood off the end. The new splitter is easily more than twice as fast as the old one! It's really not a fair comparison however, as they are two completely different types of splitters.

Here is a time lapse of me using the 3 point hitch splitter on a log. (I should do a comparison time lapse with my new splitter) It really shows how slow/cumbersome and inefficient this was. Not only that, it was torture on my back. Everyone says that the great thing about 3 point hitch splitters is that you can adjust it to any height you want, which is true when your dealing with small logs. However, you need to lower the splitter to the ground to roll large logs up on it, and then your stuck at ground level. I've tried balancing the log on the splitter and raising the 3 point hitch, but it's just another step with more time and aggravation added. For me personally, I do not like the 3 point hitch style, which is the very reason I didn't buy the Split-Fire version that goes on the 3 point hitch, despite how much I wanted one of these. :D


Is his a hydraulic splitter? I've found a 4 way to be more than twice as fast in the ideal sized wood. Otherwise it's not twice as fast, but definitely faster.
I find that the 4 way in general, is more than twice as fast, regardless of the style splitter. Not only are you making 4 splits per stroke, but you are eliminating the time it would take you to resplit wood if you were using only a two way.


I don't see how it would be much faster. 12" wood and under I push through the 4 way once and it takes me longer to get another stick of wood than it does to cycle. It might be a little faster on big wood, but I still spend a lot more time moving split pieces and rolling rounds than actually splitting. I'd think any time savings are going to be spent digging the splitter out at the end of the day.
When working alone, one person can only move so fast. There is a LOT of time to be saved outside of the splitter itself. Splitting the wood is the easy part, it's everything else that comes along with it that really increases time and energy. I will load up the log table and before the extend stroke is complete, I can roll another log down onto the splitter, and then split using the retract stroke. Is it faster than only splitting one way? Yes. However, it REALLY shines when you have two or more people and can keep logs on the lift. When my father and I are working together we notice a huge increase in speed. Honestly, if you ONLY work alone with the splitter, your not saving that much time at the end of the day no matter what splitter you have. I wouldn't be surprised if the savings adds up to a matter of minutes.
I find there is more to splitting wood than simply cycle times and tonnage ratings. A lot of people put SO much emphasis on speed only ...I like to look at the whole picture, the way the entire process 'flows'. I try to minimize the stresses on my body, and minimize the unnecessary movements, because the faster I get tired/fatigued, the more likely it is that I'm going to hurt myself, or at best, lose productivity.

So, regarding the Split-Fire (in my personal situation) I find it to not only be considerably faster than a standard style splitter, but also a lot 'easier'.

For me, this is the most productive, ergonomic, and least-stressful-on-my-back method (I have back issues at only 36 years young) shy of buying a $$$ firewood processor. Obviously everyone's needs are different, and I think that's the important thing to stress, for me, I resplit a lot of my wood because I like it split smaller than the 'average' splitter will make it on one stroke, so by avoiding the step where the log is pushed off the splitter away from me, I am eliminating the need to pick up the splits, wait for the retract, place the split, split it, and continue on the process until I've resplit the larger pieces down.

I think some questions are difficult to answer, because they are very situation dependent. It's hard to quantify the differences in speed and efficiency without side by side comparisons.
 
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I didn't have any luck posting a link, but an elevated vertical splitter looks like the best design I've seen. Powersplit splitters is the only manufacturer of that design that I've seen.
 
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When it comes to splitters, this is the easiest, fastest, most powerful way I've found to make "firewood",

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I make "firewood" NOT kindling...

SR
 
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I really like the idea of the splitters you see mounted on skidsteers. Not the type that simply split a round, but basically a processor that picks up the log, loads it, cuts it to size, and then splits it with a height adjustable 4 or 6 way. I wish I knew the name of them, I'd post a link.

SR, that is probably the best compromise splitter if you have to use the tractor as the engine. Most tractors don't have the flow and pressure needed to get fast and efficient splits. However the dedicated PTO pump and hydraulic system really overcome that disadvantage.
Shy of having a dedicated splitter, I don't think you can beat that style splitter for a tractor. Do you have a log lift on it as well? I tried talking myself into "settling" for 3 point Split-Fire with the log lift and PTO pump, but I wouldn't have done it without a log lift.

Not having the tractor available for "assistance" isn't that important when splitting smaller pieces of wood like that either. If all I had was small rounds I'd consider that style that pushes the wood off the end, since it doesn't need to be resplit.

It seems like that splitter fits your needs perfectly.
 
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Someone suggested that "short wood burns less wood over the season"

I've been running 30 inch splits for 30 years.

This year everything is 18-20"

I'll see how it goes. The comment about digging the splitter out of the pile is a funny truth! ;-)
 
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Someone suggested that "short wood burns less wood over the season"

I've been running 30 inch splits for 30 years.

This year everything is 18-20"

I'll see how it goes. The comment about digging the splitter out of the pile is a funny truth! ;-)

I am putting in a cat insert with a 22" box at the new house and have been cutting wood this year at 16" in anticipation of using less and shorter wood. More cutting but easier to handle.
 
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I am putting in a cat insert with a 22" box at the new house and have been cutting wood this year at 16" in anticipation of using less and shorter wood. More cutting but easier to handle.

Much easier to lift stack and toss.
 
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SR, that is probably the best compromise splitter if you have to use the tractor as the engine. Most tractors don't have the flow and pressure needed to get fast and efficient splits. However the dedicated PTO pump and hydraulic system really overcome that disadvantage.
Shy of having a dedicated splitter, I don't think you can beat that style splitter for a tractor. Do you have a log lift on it as well? I tried talking myself into "settling" for 3 point Split-Fire with the log lift and PTO pump, but I wouldn't have done it without a log lift.

Not having the tractor available for "assistance" isn't that important when splitting smaller pieces of wood like that either. If all I had was small rounds I'd consider that style that pushes the wood off the end, since it doesn't need to be resplit.
First of all, you don't need a log lift, IF you work smarter instead of harder...

Cut all of your wood over a wagon or trailer, then there's NO lifting heavy wood to the splitters beam, just roll them onto the beam!

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IF you have a table on your splitter, resplits re no problem at all, at least with mine it isn't. Everything get's pushed through the 4-way,

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and the resplits get rolled back over the 4-way, right back onto the beam... Letting the splits go off the end, means I don't have to handle them again to get them off the splitter. Sometimes IF I have the help, they go off the end and right into half cord "drying boxes" that get moved with the tractor,

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You just have to buy the right tools and work out a system, it really lightens the work load!

SR
 

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