Farmers becoming obsolete

[Valveman]

They have had driverless tractors for years. One farmer can sit at a computer screen and run several tractors by himself. Automation is the only choice when you can't find anyone who will work. I talk to a lot of people. And no matter what they do, no one can find any help these days. Young people have not been taught how to work. They do not want to work. And even if you can get them to show up, it is impossible for them to get anything done with that phone in one hand all day long. AND if you tell them not to use the phone, they quit. If you tell them they have to show up on time, they quit. If they have to do anything other than just push a few buttons, they quit.

They have even told me that I am "stupid for working so hard". I am just "dumb and don't know how to "work" the system, to get stuff for free". They have even told me I "should get some machines, because this is no kind of work for a human to be doing". Hoe weeds, pick vegetables, drive a tractor, or anything for 8 hours in a row AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.

So now we have a bunch of machines doing the work so we have to give everyone a "standard income"? Give me a break. So not only do I have to purchase machines to do the work a human will not do, but I have to pay the human who lost his job to a machine? I don't think so Tim. We have to take away all the entitlements. Poverty or hunger is a good motivator. These people are not going to do anything if we keep filling up the bird feeder. Yes they will squawk loudly and crap all over everything because they are mad there is nothing in the bird feeder, but they will have to learn to take care of themselves. The population is exploding and not with people who will be beneficial to society. The world has way more humans than it can survive.

That graph above says it all. 1.7% of us feed the other 98.3%. I think it is pretty close to that in any industry. A couple of percent of us do the work for everyone else. I love my robots. They are sitting there ready to work on time everyday. They don't complain about the hours or the work. They don't call in sick when they are really not. But I can't afford these robots AND pay the people that didn't want that job too.

We don't even have to build a wall. Just stop paying people to have more babies and to do nothing. Immigrants will stop coming here unless they want to work, and locals can have the jobs instead of the robots, if they will just show up for a few hours and be productive.

 

[coolreinfarm]

They have had driverless tractors for years. One farmer can sit at a computer screen and run several tractors by himself. Automation is the only choice when you can't find anyone who will work. I talk to a lot of people. And no matter what they do, no one can find any help these days. Young people have not been taught how to work. They do not want to work. And even if you can get them to show up, it is impossible for them to get anything done with that phone in one hand all day long. AND if you tell them not to use the phone, they quit. If you tell them they have to show up on time, they quit. If they have to do anything other than just push a few buttons, they quit.

They have even told me that I am "stupid for working so hard". I am just "dumb and don't know how to "work" the system, to get stuff for free". They have even told me I "should get some machines, because this is no kind of work for a human to be doing". Hoe weeds, pick vegetables, drive a tractor, or anything for 8 hours in a row AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.

So now we have a bunch of machines doing the work so we have to give everyone a "standard income"? Give me a break. So not only do I have to purchase machines to do the work a human will not do, but I have to pay the human who lost his job to a machine? I don't think so Tim. We have to take away all the entitlements. Poverty or hunger is a good motivator. These people are not going to do anything if we keep filling up the bird feeder. Yes they will squawk loudly and crap all over everything because they are mad there is nothing in the bird feeder, but they will have to learn to take care of themselves. The population is exploding and not with people who will be beneficial to society. The world has way more humans than it can survive.

That graph above says it all. 1.7% of us feed the other 98.3%. I think it is pretty close to that in any industry. A couple of percent of us do the work for everyone else. I love my robots. They are sitting there ready to work on time everyday. They don't complain about the hours or the work. They don't call in sick when they are really not. But I can't afford these robots AND pay the people that didn't want that job too.

We don't even have to build a wall. Just stop paying people to have more babies and to do nothing. Immigrants will stop coming here unless they want to work, and locals can have the jobs instead of the robots, if they will just show up for a few hours and be productive.

Amen to that, being in the hvac business for 45 years we worked 10-12 hour days 6-7 days a week in 100deg weather. You worked or got fired, kids now wouldn't last a week.

 

[BigBoyToys]

Young people have not been taught how to work. They do not want to work. And even if you can get them to show up, it is impossible for them to get anything done with that phone in one hand all day long.

Couldn't have said it any better!!!! :applause:
"Social Media" will be the downfall of this country!!!

 

[/pine]

Couldn't have said it any better!!!! :applause:
"Social Media" will be the downfall of this country!!!

MTV was the first shoe...!

 

[JRobyn]

It gives me hope for the world and our society that at least a FEW of today's kids still know what WORK is and how to do it. One of my daughters teaches 4th and 5th grade in a rural public school, is also their ESL teacher, sings every week in the church choir, is the Wednesday night church kids leader, AND is mom to a VERY busy 18 mo. old. Way more than I could handle, even when I was her age!

 

[BigBoyToys]

It gives me hope for the world and our society that at least a FEW of today's kids still know what WORK is and how to do it.

I'm very fortunate as well! My daughter graduated as an RN, worked for 3 years to get her ICU critical care experience, and is now in her last year at DUKE, soon to be a a nurse anesthetist. They were so impressed with her clinical performance and reviews that they've already offered her a stipend and a position. My son graduated from UNC and has a great job working in Charlotte. As parents, my wife and I instilled "respect", a "good work ethic" and "common sense" into their lives staring at a very young age. It really isn't that hard...you just have to be INVOLVED and not substitute money/things for parenting.

 

[Valveman]

The apples don't fall far from the tree. We just don't have enough "good" trees for them to be falling out of these days.

 

[Paddy]

Funny how we totally accept our current "tools", but if a new tool comes along it a new fangled thing we can all do with out. The teamsters likely said the same thing about the vary tractors we play/work with on this site. Same for cars and planes

Yes, I can and know how to put down shingles the old fashion way, hammer and nails. But using a nail gun pays for itself in the first 15 hours of use. When a saw a Saws-All, Reciprocating saw, 35 years ago, I couldn't see it would be that useful. Now I can see how we did with out them!

Last week I was talking with an "old timer" who work at a construction supply house for 40 years. He said they would unload a truck load of concrete blocks by hand, cart them back to the warehouse. He said they never thought anything about it, just 3-4 guys working all day. Many years later, the owner showed up with a forklift and one guy could unload the truck in 15 min. And nobody complained

My grandfather was born in 1900 and passed in 2008, can't even image all the change he saw in his lifetime. Born before the car and planes and when he was 69, man on the moon.

Like is change

 

[newbury]

<snip> Just stop paying people to have more babies and to do nothing. Immigrants will stop coming here unless they want to work, and locals can have the jobs instead of the robots, if they will just show up for a few hours and be productive.

Or enact a variation of China's "one child" policy.

The apples don't fall far from the tree. We just don't have enough "good" trees for them to be falling out of these days.

Too many apples falling from the same trees.

 

[turnkey4099]

Amen to that, being in the hvac business for 45 years we worked 10-12 hour days 6-7 days a week in 100deg weather. You worked or got fired, kids now wouldn't last a week.

It isn't just recent. 1971 I worked in an iron foundry in San Angelo Tx as a way to 'get in shape' to retire. I wanted to do something physical in retirement, flew a chair for 21 years, that was enought/ Not unusual local college football coach would send team members down to it to get part-time jobs to shape up some. Start of shift, 4 new ones were there. An hour later one of them asked who was the boss. I pointed out a little mexican. He went to him, couple words and the 4 of them left never to be seen again. I guess wrestling 150 lb castings was a bit too much for them.