Gc1720 wont start again

   / Gc1720 wont start again #11  
I own both a GC2610 and a 2016 GC1720. Yes, during winter cold the fuel Gels up including Winter Diesel if you live where it goes below zero like me.

In winter I add Diesel Gel fighting additive to my tank, with full tank I should say. I also will use Diesel 911 before starting it up in an hour or two. I no longer waste my time believing the Gas Stations crappy fuel is winterized. So including what I had just stated I "proactively" remove the fuel filter after a below zero night and before starting. I wipe it with paper towels, use a wooden toothpick to clean the ribs of the Gel in the filter (even with additives it happens). I fill the plastic fuel filter cover with the same filter placed inside 50% filled with Diesel 911 and 50% from the Diesel when reopening the petcock. WELCOME TO DIESEL ****.....Lol Joking" Diesel Gel will happen starting at 17 degrees Fahrenheit & below...... (Remember, ANY storage containers even 55 gallon drums of Diesel exposed to those cold temperatures need to having Anti-Gel additives mixed in or it will happen when you refuel with crappy stored Diesel.)

Above post is assuming your familiar with your fuel filter location. If not, use cardboard lay it down to keep dry. WITH ENGINE OFF, lay under Drivers side and look for a small about 5 ounce size almost clear plastic cap that has a grey metal ring at the top that is "Hand" tightened. Before touching it, on the side of the fuel unit you are looking at there is a metal petcock. Down position is for fuel and up sideways is fuel line shut off. Moves easily in one direction only...do not force it to go where it does not want to go! Unscrew the metal ring and wiggle off the plastic cover. It has an "O" Ring on it so do not damage it. If Gel has taken over the Filter may stay on and not slide off with the cover. Either way you will see the Diesel Fuel Gel we're all talking about. look up into the openings where the top of the filter was touching. If Gel is clogging two holes up there use whatever "CLEAN" utensil or toll you have to clean them out. Now take the fuel filter and cover with you inside Garage or if you can stand the smell of Diesel in the House. Use the wooden toothpick lightly to clean the Gel out from the Ribs of the filter, wipe out the inside of the cover. I do not recommend any ignition sources used near fuels. But yes, I have head from people using from a distance a Hair Dryer on Low to melt the Gel on the filter but I found there is no need to do so. Yes, Diesel is much safer than Gas but it is not a good practice to do or even a safe one at that.....Now go out with fuel filter back in cover "Hole Up", ensure metal ring is slipped back over it, get back under. Take the time to slide the cover "Slowly aligned with the filter hole" until the "O" Ring seats. Then screw on Metal Ring "Hand Tightened" turn petcock back down to fuel position. (Remember, I already own some Diesel 911 so I add it 50% in the cover before I seat the "O" Ring. Now it is time to start, Turn Key where you hear the fuel injector noise and yellow Glow Plugs noise wait 15 seconds. Turn that bad boy on, idle at low RPM until engine is warm before cranking it higher. (Some people do not know better and they tear up there Diesel Engines). If engine requires a higher throttle for start up, immediately take the RPM's down once the engine starts....I have a 2630 Snow Thrower on mine during the Winter cause I have a LONG gravel driveway out here in the country....BTW, Any Fuel issue that is not mechanical pump etc... is not covered by a new Tractor warranty and Dealers are expensive!!!!
 
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   / Gc1720 wont start again #12  
Ok well fuel filter is out of the question for now unless I have a extra and ill check when I get back home.

The last time it wouldn't start it was summer time tho. I posted videos of it on here.

I appreciate all the help and see what it is tomorrow if I'm not stumbling in the morning :).

If you have a can of brake cleaner, perhaps you may be able to "clean" the fuel filter enough to get it working for now.

Spray it down real good, and let it sit for a while after you clean it, for the solvent in the brake cleaner to evaporate.

If you've had this problem before, the fuel filter would be the first thing you want to replace.
 
   / Gc1720 wont start again #13  
Ooklaa, I have one here that I could send to you... just don't know if you'd get it any faster than finding one locally... assuming it's the same filter used on 2300s.

Ditto on the tarp idea- I've found that, given 5-6 hours, my block heater will heat up the whole engine area nicely if I cover the hood/engine area with a blanket, blocking as much of the vent areas as I can.
 
   / Gc1720 wont start again #14  
Ok well fuel filter is out of the question for now unless I have a extra and ill check when I get back home.

The last time it wouldn't start it was summer time tho. I posted videos of it on here.

I appreciate all the help and see what it is tomorrow if I'm not stumbling in the morning :).

I had a suspected fuel gelling problem last winter. I had the block heater on for a couple hours, and went to start it up, acted exactly how your machine did. Started up cleanly, and died before I could climb on the seat. I always keep a couple filters on hand because I had gotten a bad batch a fuel a couple years ago, turned that nice pink filter black in a couple tanks.

If you can't get to the dealer, I believe WIX 33262 is a alternative fuel filter, but confirm that with someone else before you buy!
 
   / Gc1720 wont start again #15  
I agree with the fuel gelling up I always add power service diesel additive, and have a jug of their 911 available, other question I have is on my 2610 the manual states to hold the glow plugs on for 17 seconds before starting, not sure if that will help.
 
   / Gc1720 wont start again #16  
Doesn't take but a minute or two to check the under seat fuel shutoff switch. I always try to eliminate the simple stuff first.
 
   / Gc1720 wont start again
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#17  
Havent been able to touch the tractor since my last post. I'm going to try to tow it up to my driveway and put it in my garage on my next day off. The thing the sucks tho is my dam back hoe has settled and so has my loader and i dont know how the help to get it up in order to move the tractor. I called dealer today amd yesterday and closed so I assume they be open tomorrow and ill give them a ring.
Ill go put a nice blanket on it to see it it will warm if up a lil also.
 
   / Gc1720 wont start again #18  
for the little bit of time it ran on the video, might be enough time to raise the hoe. not sure.
 
   / Gc1720 wont start again #19  
Although not an ideal solution, you may be able hold the levers in position while turning it over and let the starter motor pump the hydro. If it's out in the cold, you're only option may be a generator and a salamander jet heater.
 
   / Gc1720 wont start again #20  
There is this thread currently in another section which is applicable to this one. It starts up as how to get the tractor started in cold weather, then someone chimes in with a how to keep it running.....
 

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