Snow Snow removal: bucket, blower, plow?

   / Snow removal: bucket, blower, plow? #21  
Looking into it a little further, the MF 1705 is a SUBcompact tractor.
The loader looks to be VERY easy to disconnect.
My recommendation would be to take the loader off & mount a front blade & chains.
 
   / Snow removal: bucket, blower, plow? #22  
^ Chains and weight. Extra weight is your friend if your going to try and push snow.
Tractordata says a MF1705 weighs 1400lbs.

Wet snow can be 25-50 pounds/ cubic foot.

A snowblower is ideal for a light tractor to move snow as it doesn't rely on the weight of the vehicle, however a snowblower on a steep camp road might not be ideal; unless it's a nicely maintained road with no ruts or stones.

Putting a plow on the front has some advantages, similar to a front snowblower, in that your driving on cleared ground rather than through deep snow. This is important for a subcompact.
Is a front plow available for a MF 1705? Putting a plow on the FEL arms has some advantages, but dangers too, as the FEL is not made for this and the loader arms are susceptible to damage if you hit something at a good speed. Though many people mount plows on their loader with no problems. Although most aren't plowing steep camp roads. I'd definitely would want a blade with trip springs.

A rear blade may be best bet, but probably a challenge for a subcompact if snow gets deep; or heavy and you want to move it more than one blade width.
Note, most people advise plowing forward with a rear blade because if you hit an object the blade has more of a chance of skipping over it than bringing tractor to sudden stop and damaging your 3 pth. Pus 3pth is made to pull, not push.

Depending on how much snow you get, how heavy it is, and how steep your road is, you may be trying to do a lot with a little.
Good luck.
 
   / Snow removal: bucket, blower, plow? #23  
First Question: Does tractor have enclosed cab. Been using a rear blower for 27 years, and unless the wind is calm, I ended up WEARING a large portion of the blown snow. This year, using different tractor, NEW CAB, FEL mounted SNOW Pusher and rear back blade, skid shoes are a necessity. Is the path/driveway paved? Not likely, then gravel/stones do not blend well with impeller fan on blower. I use hydraulic top link to adjust cutting edge attitude on blower, works quite well . Do you have rear remote hydraulic outlet, 1 or 2?

The best combo, my opinion, is CAB, Rear Blower, Front FEL Pusher. The bucket is too slow, some have modified the cutting edge with encapsulated pipe, ( no experience with that) but gouging is an issue. Fill, reverse, dump, bucket refused to empty, fill again, repeat, frustration, takes an eternity, and so on.

My R4 rear tires are very wide (17.5) and not loaded. Very disappointed in the R4. Have turfs on the ford, loaded, they performed much better, But the ford either pushed a 66 inch FEL bucket or snow blower and the current snow pusher is 84 inch. But Kubota is much heavier than the ford. As for snow blowers, Wood Max is more reasonable in price and very good reviews on this site.

The 84 inch blower is about $2500. I am considering for next year. Shipping is included, but they are made in my back yard, so a personal factory visit suggests a price break. The snow pusher is just so fast, nothing to empty, just lift and go again.

Plow requires hydraulic power to angle. Did that one year but used manual angle adjustment, pain in butt, abandoned that approach.

ThinK about loaded tires if applicable. Rear weight is the major performance variable, I am resisting adding chains. I mow lawn areas, loaded tires in the spring cause damage. Had an IH 2400B TLB, once, 2 wheel drive, very heavy, pushed unbelievable amount of snow. If you purchase forks, rear weight is required. I have a modified 3 point ballast weight box for Kubota, for use with TITAN brand forks.
 
   / Snow removal: bucket, blower, plow? #24  
IMO, if you can afford it, the front blower is, by far, the best way to go.
 
   / Snow removal: bucket, blower, plow? #25  
My new MF 1705 is being delivered tomorrow with a bucket loader. I definitely wanted the loader, but I was hoping to be able to plow the long, steep road to my camp with it. Now I'm worried that it will take forever to fill the bucket, turn to the side, dump, back up, turn, and repeat. But if it's not too bad, I might do it and save the $3500 for a blower or $2500 from a plow from the MF dealer.

So what do the experienced tractor users have to suggest? How bad is it to plow with a loader? Are there any significantly cheaper options for loaders or blowers (like after-market or other tractor brands)?

Thanks from this soon-to-be first-time tractor owner,

Don

How deep of snow are we talking, and where are you located?

I have a front mounted plow on my FEL arms. It has power angle left and right, wheels to let it ride over gravel or grass, and it can dump and curl just like a bucket. In 2001, it was $450. Today, its about $650. Anyhow, we don't get enough snow to justify the cost of a blower here. We average around 75" per years.

I have plowed snow with my bucket. It's super easy. Just drop the bucket and curl it back an inch or two so that it skids over the gravel instead of digging in. Then just drive down the center of the road. The snow will build up in the bucket, and then act like a V wedge, pushing snow to the sides by itself. There's no reason to stop and turn and empty the bucket. Just drive forward. Once you get to the end, turn around and repeat, but only take a half pass on the side. Again the snow will build up and act like an angled blade and push most of the snow to the side. Turn around and repeat. Usually 5-6 passes and you're all done. Then use the bucket to clean up the ends and parking areas.

If the snow is too deep to push with your bucket, it was probably too deep to drive through and pull a rear blade through as well. You could reverse the rear blade and back into it. But if that's what you have to resort to, then you're neck will appreciate it if you just use the bucket and take smaller scoops.

If it were me, I'd try it with just the bucket a few times and see how it goes. You might need some rear weight.
 
   / Snow removal: bucket, blower, plow? #26  
My new MF 1705 is being delivered tomorrow with a bucket loader. I definitely wanted the loader, but I was hoping to be able to plow the long, steep road to my camp with it. Now I'm worried that it will take forever to fill the bucket, turn to the side, dump, back up, turn, and repeat.

Don

No, it will be bad. Not at first as you run your new machine. It will be the repetition that will get sickening. You need at least a 3 pt scraper blade. This is good for maybe a foot of snow at the most. Get one at least with the 17" high mold board.
You do not say how long a run you have but eventually, you'll get a plow blade for it. Might as well get one now and save yourself years of kicking yourself for not having done so at the beginning.
 
   / Snow removal: bucket, blower, plow? #27  
As others have said (asked)....need more info.

We have no idea where you live because you haven't said, and didn't fill it out in your profile.

We have no idea how much snow you get.

We have no idea what surface you are plowing.

We have no idea if your machine has a cab.

If you live somewhere like Kentucky, south Indiana, Virginia.....with modest winter's.....you are gonna get ALOT different answers than if you live in buffalo, or Canada.

Blower + open station is miserable.
 
   / Snow removal: bucket, blower, plow? #28  
As others have said (asked)....need more info.

We have no idea where you live because you haven't said, and didn't fill it out in your profile.

We have no idea how much snow you get.

We have no idea what surface you are plowing.

We have no idea if your machine has a cab.

If you live somewhere like Kentucky, south Indiana, Virginia.....with modest winter's.....you are gonna get ALOT different answers than if you live in buffalo, or Canada.

Blower + open station is miserable.

We do know the MF 1705 is a riding lawnmower size machine not a full sized 80HP tractor that can run anything.
A 4' or 5' blade is about the limit, front or back.
Yes, a snowblower will fit & work but usually are much slower and without a cab very uncomfortable.
 

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