Questions before I buy.

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This may assist in visualizing a 3rd function as well.

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What this photo is shows is that on an open center* hydraulic system hydraulic pressure (P for pressure or power) flows throught the valve if not divered to run the lift or curl functions of the loader. Flowing out of the loader valve, a double-acting divertor valve is installed inline on the hose between the three point valve and the loader valve. This divertor valve is also open center (meaning that when at rest, it too allows hydraulic P to flow straight through. You'll use a DO3 open center subplate, and a double-acting electric over hydraulic divertor valve to provide your tractor's loader with a third function.

Your base third function diagram looks like this:

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Unless you buy a kit, when ordering a DO3 valve, you want is hydraulic diagram of the valve to match what I've drawn in the diagram above (open center, work ports A and B blocked in neutral).

The valve is mounted to a subplate. The subplate has four hydraulic ports: P for fluid coming in, T (tank) for fluid going out (which gets tapped into the three point's inlet), and A and B for doing work. You'll want a DO3 subplate as well. Here is the very subplate you'd need, a SFP 10101 DO3.

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On my tractor, I mounted my subplate atop my transmission out of harms way. I used LED DIN connectors so that when power was applied, I'd have a tell-tail light to help determin faults if the third function failed. Power to activate the double-acting valve come from solid state relays (for low failure rates) wired directly to the battery. Control power came off of a piggy-back plug on the radio at the fusebox which I fused to 5 amps and that ran through the switches on the joystick and then to the control side of the relays.

Hoses where all custom sized using my local hydaulic jobber to crimp them up. I made a total of three mounting plates and included a quick disconnect for removing the loader while keeping the third function's hard lines of the loader.

* Closed center is like the water system in your house: always under pressure and fluid does not move till the valve is opened. Open center is like a spray pump where the water goes round and round the system till it is needed, then diverted off in another direction by a valve.
 
   / Questions before I buy. #12  
For anyone curious, the drawing I posted is from the WR Long 3rd funtion kit.
 
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I went to the dealer today and he pointed that the tractor has 2 sets of remotes that they run to the front.
 
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New question does the 3510 have a block heater if not how hard is it to install
 
   / Questions before I buy. #15  
New question does the 3510 have a block heater if not how hard is it to install

When I bought my 3510 in December I wanted a block heater but the dealer said they didn't install them as they were having issue with the factory heaters. So it's something to ask your dealer about.
 
   / Questions before I buy. #16  
When I bought my 3510 in December I wanted a block heater but the dealer said they didn't install them as they were having issue with the factory heaters. So it's something to ask your dealer about.

Issues? What issues? It is a sleeve and and screw-in heater.
 
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Spoke with the dealer today and he said they don't usually put in a block heater, most guys install one in the bottom hose.
 
   / Questions before I buy. #18  
I know a lot of guys have had good luck with wolverine pad heaters. I have been considering them, or a magnetic heater for a while now.
 
   / Questions before I buy. #19  
I had the WR Long third function installed on my Kubota - along with the Land Pride SGC1560 grapple. Its a very nice system and tough as an OX. The FEL joy stick is replaced with a unit produced by WR Long with a toggle switch to activate the grapple's open/close function.
 
   / Questions before I buy. #20  
People: pop a frost plug out, install a sleeve using form in place gasket sealer, and screw in a block heater with teflon tap to seal it.

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The only caution is when removing the frost plug do not drill or punch into the cylinder wall.
 

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