Your Land is my Land

[downslope]

New York law has changed, it was way too easy to claim this, I forgot the new requirement, but think it has to be agreed upon in writing by the original owner now..

It was so easy in NY that it actually encouraged stealthy and mischievous encroachment by neighbors. Plop a shed, fence, drainage pipe or kids' swing set on the neighbor's land and hope it's not contested for 10+ years. My understanding now is it has to be an "there is no other way" situation, like another property owner accessing his otherwise landlocked parcel over your land and has been doing so for 10 or more years, among other factors.
As I had thought, the law changed a few times 10-15 years ago when David Paterson was governor.
New York Enacts Changes to Adverse Possession Law to Require Claim of Right | LAW OF THE LAND

Adverse Possession: Mind Your Property - The New York Times

The OP's situation may fall more in the area of
Prescriptive Easement: https://hba-law.com/lawyer/2017/06/14/Real-Property/Negotiating,-Neutralizing,-and-Nullifying-Nasty-Neighbors-in-New-York--[Episode-Five-%E2%80%93-When-Neighbors-Claim-a-Prescriptive-Easement]_bl30308.htm

Notice that much of the controversy back then in NY was started by an attorney who he himself was attempting to secure adverse possession of part of a neighbors parcel.

Truer words: "The dispute between the record property owner of the disputed area and the would-be adverse possessor may escalate quickly and become very nasty, leading to expensive and time-consuming litigation."

 

[radios1]

It was so easy in NY that it actually encouraged stealthy and mischievous encroachment by neighbors. Plop a shed, fence, drainage pipe or kids' swing set on the neighbor's land and hope it's not contested for 10+ years. My understanding now is it has to be an "there is no other way" situation, like another property owner accessing his otherwise landlocked parcel over your land and has been doing so for 10 or more years, among other factors.
As I had thought, the law changed a few times 10-15 years ago when David Paterson was governor.
New York Enacts Changes to Adverse Possession Law to Require Claim of Right | LAW OF THE LAND

Adverse Possession: Mind Your Property - The New York Times

The OP's situation may fall more in the area of
Prescriptive Easement: https://hba-law.com/lawyer/2017/06/14/Real-Property/Negotiating,-Neutralizing,-and-Nullifying-Nasty-Neighbors-in-New-York--[Episode-Five-%E2%80%93-When-Neighbors-Claim-a-Prescriptive-Easement]_bl30308.htm

Notice that much of the controversy back then in NY was started by an attorney who he himself was attempting to secure adverse possession of part of a neighbors parcel.

Truer words: "The dispute between the record property owner of the disputed area and the would-be adverse possessor may escalate quickly and become very nasty, leading to expensive and time-consuming litigation."

a qualifying adverse possession might be if you bought property, and a neighbors fence was up already, then the neighbors went to sell their own property, and the new owners had a survey done, and realized part of your property is on their land.. you'd have a claim of right thinking your land is on your side of the neighbors fence!..

 

[goeduck]

Spreading any kind of manure around deters people on foot and sometimes even drivers. And I successfully used it to stop a neighbor from letting his dogs run free late at night to poop on my yard [this was in the suburbs]. About the second time the dog came home smelling like steer manure.

That is a great idea. You could have some delivered monthly to keep it fresh so they roll in it. And pour some bacon grease on some of it so they get a full belly before going home. :rotfl: :rotfl:

 

[goeduck]

I like that. Maybe even plant some stinging nettles or something along that line to further discourage them.

We have some Himalayan berries out here that we could ship back there. Absolutely impenetrable. Glad to get rid of some.

 

[Doofy]

That is a great idea. You could have some delivered monthly to keep it fresh so they roll in it. And pour some bacon grease on some of it so they get a full belly before going home. :rotfl: :rotfl:

I'd be afraid my own kids and dogs would bring home that aroma!

 

[PILOON]

Re trespassing nuisance dogs----
I had a neighbor who's dog always pooped near my front door.
I bagged the poop, lit the bag and left it by his front door and rang his door bell.
Once he had stomped on the burning bag he got the message.

 

[radios1]

Re trespassing nuisance dogs----
I had a neighbor who's dog always pooped near my front door.
I bagged the poop, lit the bag and left it by his front door and rang his door bell.
Once he had stomped on the burning bag he got the message.

I'm surprised people still fall for that.. it's a very old trick..

 

[RSKY]

I have been accused of being a smarta-- and other things on this thread so here is the rest of the story.

My family owns an 80 acre +/- farm in a river bottom. At one time it was more than it is now. An uncle, my mother's brother in law, somehow managed to get two or three acres deeded to him off our farm because the old deed wasn't clear about the line on a steep wooded hillside. He did this by going to the courthouse and looking at the deeds to all the farms that had property lines touching his. This was on the northeast corner of our farm. After he had the papers recorded there was nothing dad could do. It was a couple years later when dad found out he had lost the land. Uncle added five to ten acres to his land by doing this to us and his other neighbors.

Another 'neighbor' found out about it and told dad. While dad was arguing with the uncle that 'neighbor' tried the same thing on the southeast corner. But there were 'blaze marks' on the trees that prevented the takeover. The blaze marks could not be found on the first section because the uncle had changed them or cut the trees down.

The river bottom part of the farm floods every three or four years. Another neighbor tried to move the line on another corner. This was prevented because the fence that marked that line was grown into the trees and that guy couldn't get all the wire pulled out after the fence had been carried away in a flood.

The point to this sad story is that if there is ANY conflict about land and property lines is to GET IT SETTLED RIGHT NOW! All this happened in the fifties and sixties and there were several nearly violent confrontations about the property lines up and down a five mile stretch of road.

If the OP waits another year, or two, then that land will no longer be his. Don't put it off until tomorrow. Settle it now!!

RSKY

 

[Teachu2]

Re trespassing nuisance dogs----
I had a neighbor who's dog always pooped near my front door.
I bagged the poop, lit the bag and left it by his front door and rang his door bell.
Once he had stomped on the burning bag he got the message.

Around here, that's called arson.

 

[MossRoad]

I'm surprised people still fall for that.. it's a very old trick..

Lighting dog poop on neighbors porch yields arson charge in Greeley – The Denver Post