woodmaxx flail mower?

   / woodmaxx flail mower? #201  
The tariff increase of 25% was for steel and aluminum. Total cost in building a wood chipper or anything else, is NOT 100% only the steel or aluminum. For a seller to raise their prices 25% I think is simply price gouging. Their cost didn't increase 25%.

I as an individual will have little or no effect on not buying from sellers that are playing that game. They, of course, have the right to set their prices at whatever the market will bear. On the other hand, I also have the right to buy from whomever I choose. I'm thinking that some sellers have forgotten the Golden Rule, i.e. The one with the gold makes the rule.
 
   / woodmaxx flail mower? #202  
The tariffs are not just on steel and aluminium. The media greatly over simplifies. The tariffs are on many hundreds of categories of items including tractors and farm implements.

Here's details on just two of the many sets of tariffs that have been announced or are in place: Trump, China tariff full list of goods, products - Business Insider

Here's a couple exerpts: (I do not know what nesoi means but it's all over the lists).

8432.10.00 Plows for soil preparation or cultivation
8432.21.00 Disc harrows for soil preparation or cultivation
8432.80.00 Agricultural, horticultural or forestry machinery for soil preparation or cultivation, nesoi; lawn or sports ground rollers
8432.90.00 Parts of agricultural, horticultural or forestry machinery for soil preparation or cultivation; parts of lawn or sports ground rollers
8433.20.00 Mowers nesoi, including cutter bars for tractor mounting
8433.30.00 Haymaking machinery other than mowers
8433.40.00 Straw or fodder balers, including pick-up balers
8433.51.00 Combine harvester-threshers
8433.52.00 Threshing machinery other than combine harvester-threshers
8433.53.00 Root or tuber harvesting machines
8433.59.00 Harvesting machinery or threshing machinery, nesoi

8701.91.10 Other tractors of engine power <18kW, for agricultural use
8701.91.50 Other tractors of engine power <18kW, not for agricultural use
8701.92.10 Other tractors of engine power => 18kW but < 37kW, for agricultural use
8701.92.50 Other tractors of engine power => 18kW but < 37kW, not for agricultural use
8701.93.10 Other tractors of engine power => 37kW but < 75kW, for agricultural use
8701.93.50 Other tractors of engine power => 37kW but < 75kW, not for agricultural use
8701.94.10 Other tractors of engine power => 75kW but < 130kW, for agricultural use
8701.94.50 Other tractors of engine power => 75kW but < 130kW, not for agricultural use
8701.95.10 Other tractors of engine power >130kW, for agricultural use
8701.95.50 Other tractors of engine power >130kW, not for agricultural use

A 25% wholesale price increase is large. At the typical retail 50% margin (which may well be a better margin than farm implement dealers operate with) a 25% increase in cost of goods is 12.5% of the selling price. Not many businesses run a 12.5% profit margin. Especially considering that importers of chinese implements and tractors are generally small companies. Few would be willing to risk a tiny or negative profit for long. So I do not expect sellers of chinese made implements or tractors to hold their prices.
 
   / woodmaxx flail mower? #203  
I used to do sales work for an aluminum company. Often times we would use a situation like this to start a price increase.....especially if we were covered up with business (high sales). We might try to get a 10% increase in prices for example.....but in reality it would settle in at about a 3% increase over time. However, I am also old enough to have been around during the 70's when price increase after price increase came to be.....and if you snoozed you lost. Not sure we are at this point....but I do think prices for many items could be going up. I just bought a new tractor......so I think I am ahead of the trend in that department.

I dont really know which flail I may want or need....if any. I would just like to own one in addition to my rotary cutter. :).
 
   / woodmaxx flail mower? #204  
I was looking at getting the 54" flail for my BX. Now the price has gone up by a couple of hundred dollars. I can get a cheaper one for almost 1/2 that. I would only use it a few times a year, so it won't be getting a lot of hours. I have to think about that now....:confused:
 
   / woodmaxx flail mower? #205  
I had been contemplating a 6' hydraulic-offset flail mower purchase just as talk of trade war was heating up. Figured that ordering sooner rather than later made sense, got the order in back when this model was still ~$2600, and received my Woodmaxx FM 78-H last week. So far, I have just gotten one side of the crate disassembled, the gear box filled, the 3-pt hitch mounted (using Red Locktite on all bolts).

I tried to get hydraulic fittings, and my Kubota dealer had the 1/2" fittings that fit my rear remotes of course, but the threaded end did not want to spin onto the Woodmaxx threaded connections at the ends of the hoses they included. The Woodmaxx manual says 1/2" x 14 NPT, and I think that's what I have? The Kubota folks didn't have a thread checker, but said these were the only thread gauge of 1/2" fittings they use. Then the Cat place checked them on the thread gauge they did have, and told me that they mic'd to 1/2 x 14 NPT, if a little stiff. At TSC, again no actual thread checker, but the fittings spun easily onto the threaded connections of the pre-cut 1/2" hoses they had on the shelf. Might the Woodmaxx fittings just be a little off? Didn't want to start wrenching hard if the size is wrong...

I may check my thread chaser kit that is buried somewhere among the tools to check to see if a 1/2"x 14 NPT thread is there. Meanwhile, what did you other Woodmaxx owners find? I'm eager to get to mowing pasture next week!

As for other first impressions, some rust is already forming on spots where the paint was thin, after only a week in the weather... :-/
 
   / woodmaxx flail mower? #206  
I had the same issue with my hose ends on the woodmaxx I bought. I took the hoses to a hydraulic shop thinking they'd know what to do. The response I got was... Put some tape on it and wrench it tight. So far, no leaks after about 20 hours of use. They did say the ends were tapered it seemed to form a tight fit?
 
   / woodmaxx flail mower? #207  
I had the same issue with my hose ends on the woodmaxx I bought. I took the hoses to a hydraulic shop thinking they'd know what to do. The response I got was... Put some tape on it and wrench it tight. So far, no leaks after about 20 hours of use. They did say the ends were tapered it seemed to form a tight fit?

Think they might have been pipe threads?
 
   / woodmaxx flail mower? #208  
Same issue here too. Couple trips to local parts store and all is well
Ricn
 
   / woodmaxx flail mower? #209  
Same issue here too. Couple trips to local parts store and all is well
Ricn

Ricn, did you wind-up having to buy new hoses, or did they convince you to put some tape on it and wrench it tight, like sickeys did? Sounds like that will be my next step... If I need to replace the hoses anyway, might as well try Tape & hard wrenching first...
 
   / woodmaxx flail mower? #210  
Hello Sickeys,

I cannot believe they told you that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you sure the hoses are not British Standard Pipe with an O-ring Boss?????
It certainly sounds like they are British Standard Pipe hose fittings.

If they were properly threaded SAE/NPT you would barely need a little liquid pipe dope on the second thread to seal it.


If you do not know the manufacturing brand of hoses they use its already suspect as they all must have the manufacturers name on the hose and the hose information on it to conform to the Joint Industrial Council rules of manufacture and sizing to have uniform products and sizes for all hydraulic needs.
 
 

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