Now ready for the concrete in the pole barn

   / Now ready for the concrete in the pole barn #81  
Didn't give it a thought ! Good tip. I will just drill through the grade board and run some rebar between the 2 pads.

You will have to notch the grade board if you want to pull the board......
 
   / Now ready for the concrete in the pole barn #82  
If you want to be sure that section does not rot out on you later cut with a saws all the ends of the add on part and notch the boards as suggested. Couple extra stakes and then pull the board out after you have the concrete on grade. Few shovel fulls of concrete to back fill it in.

Actually might only need a short section of board in the door way just for grading purpose. Might be able to let the rest of the area flow under the walls.

The one number one bad thing about that wire mesh is that often times every one gets busy, hot or tired and it does not get pulled up into the concrete. Might keep a eye on that.
 
   / Now ready for the concrete in the pole barn #83  
I've never saw mesh end up anywhere except under the concrete of any pour that requires walking on. In this situation the rebar is going to be down there too.

Hope you have a crew helping you. Concrete is hard work!!!
 
   / Now ready for the concrete in the pole barn #84  
Gonna be an exciting day!!!!

I'm curious why you didn't use chairs for the rebar? One of the biggest lies told in the concrete world is that they will lift the rebar while working it, and then nobody will step on it while spreading the mud, and push it right back down to the ground. That is if they even pretend to lift it for photo's. If nobody is around, then they don't even pretend.
 
   / Now ready for the concrete in the pole barn #85  
Gonna be an exciting day!!!!

I'm curious why you didn't use chairs for the rebar? One of the biggest lies told in the concrete world is that they will lift the rebar while working it, and then nobody will step on it while spreading the mud, and push it right back down to the ground. That is if they even pretend to lift it for photo's. If nobody is around, then they don't even pretend.
Yes, rebar tied together is hard to pick up without concrete on it, with concrete you really won't pick it up.
 
   / Now ready for the concrete in the pole barn #86  
One of the biggest lies told in the concrete world is that they will lift the rebar while working it, and then nobody will step on it while spreading the mud, and push it right back down to the ground. That is if they even pretend to lift it for photo's. If nobody is around, then they don't even pretend.

Very true ^^^^

Don’t they do this so they can walk on it and get the pour done faster? With the chairs in there not so walkable. I would want the chairs and the rebar up in the pour like it is supposed to be.
 
   / Now ready for the concrete in the pole barn #87  
If they don’t have chairs (rebar spacers) nearby, call out on them. I had a good crew that had the rebar flat for the concrete truck to roll on then they get lifted on those chairs when the truck moves along. This was for my 6” RV pad.
 
   / Now ready for the concrete in the pole barn #88  
Yes I know I am probably going to get flamed. Rebar on 16 inch or 24 inch spacing can easily be pulled up as the pour is made. Once the gravel is under the rebar it’s unlikely to go back down to grade height if walked on. The problem is making darn sure it happens. A person better be watching closely to whats going on. Chairs take away a lot of those worries. Also make sure their not using pieces of brick or boards or other such junk instead of proper chairs.

Fiber or wire mesh are not proper substitutes for rebar.

One thing I do find interesting is how much money and work people spend on concrete and how often the rebar is laid out with no regard to posts, inside corners, saw cuts, and stress areas. Same for proper expansion joints and materials. That is assuming the products are even being used to start with.

Hopefully the OP’s pour and finish went well.
 
   / Now ready for the concrete in the pole barn #89  
I had a concrete guy tell me he hated chairs because they got stuck in the gravel when they drove their buggy over the mesh/rebar. Didn't like dobies (bricks) either because then they couldn't use the buggy...
 
   / Now ready for the concrete in the pole barn #90  
They probably are not the sharpest knife in the drawer but they would probably use chairs if it was their own pour. You want rebar in the tension portion of the concrete and on the edges of the pour that is higher in the slab. It does little to no good in the center and bottom there.
 

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