Homeowner's Insurance in Rural Maine - Chesterville

   / Homeowner's Insurance in Rural Maine - Chesterville
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#11  
The closest office to Chesterville is in Westbrook, but contact Home - F.A. Peabody and they may be able to help you.
They have always been very helpful and seem to go above and beyond to help find insurers.

Thank you for the tip. It is possible they may deal with a different set of insurance companies. We will check it out.
 
   / Homeowner's Insurance in Rural Maine - Chesterville #12  
If there is a Farm Bureau in the two states, give them a call. We had some big name insurance company when we lived in the city but when we built our country house the premiums went up so we started shopping. The wife's family has always used Farm Bureau so we gave them a call. They provided the same coverage for less. We use them for all insurance now and when we had some car accidents they were awesome to deal with. Excellent customer service.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Homeowner's Insurance in Rural Maine - Chesterville #13  
Of course one solution would be to keep the current company that you are grandfathered with. It may cost "more" but you are insured rather than uninsured at that point.

I would talk to the locals to the MA house and see what agent they use. not necessarily what insurance company they use, but who is the agent. Deal with that person directly. They know how to navigate the particular insurance issues for that area.

We had troubles with a lender to finance our purchase because it was over some arbitrary number of acres. Had to go to a local small credit union. Also talk to one of those, they will have leads on property insurance companies as well.
 
   / Homeowner's Insurance in Rural Maine - Chesterville
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Talking to your Maine neighbors may give you a lead ? Also see if you can get just liability?
I pay a lot for insurance as my fire department's motto seems to be "no small fires." No hydrants for miles. One company suggested digging a pond; I figured the pond, besides being expensive, would bump my liability rates too. Sounds like you're painting the house which sits mostly unoccupied, companies don't like that either. Consider not insuring the barn, although I had a similar barn that went up like a roman candle and the company I had was really easy to deal with. I don't think Agway Insurance is still around, likely some connection there. I think the mindset of companies is that a well maintained, owner occupied place is less of a risk, my new company made me do handrails, chimney caps, and a general tidying up, all of which was reasonable.
For a few years an itinerant barn painter from South Carolina would knock on my door and tell me he would paint my barn for X thousand dollars; I would tell him to go away, and the next year he would knock and come down 20% or so. After a few years we struck a deal. His crew showed up hours later with some big spraying rigs and did a good job in a few hours. No detail work, no prep, just a lot of paint. I had to scrape paint off windows, and I had to paint over trim, but he took a job that would have cost me a lot of time and money, made it look easy. Years later it still looks good.

The neighbours are spread pretty thin and we know only a few. Most of them have newer houses because they are on land that has been subdivided from the old farms. So, their insurance companies may very well be the companies that are resisting coverage.

The changes they are asking for on both houses far outweigh the savings in insurance cost. In NJ, most companies balked because the roof will need to be replaced in a few years along with the fact that we live 4 miles from the shore. There are already two courses of shingles so the roof would need to be stripped. We have been contemplating moving to Maine permanently for many years and maybe this along with the high taxes, overcrowding, etc. will finally push us out of NJ.

In the interim, we may just end up sucking up the high insurance cost and keep our existing coverage. At least we now know that the house in Maine is the stumbling block.
 
   / Homeowner's Insurance in Rural Maine - Chesterville #15  
If I'm reading your post correctly, your biggest concern is the liability if someone is hurt, not so much the house, right? I know things are different up there but in Texas the land is mostly privately owned and trespassing really isn't allowed, even without fencing. So, we have to own land or lease hunting rights to be able to hunt, trespassing with a firearm is a class A misdemeanor, and all hunting leases require a liability policy be purchased by the lessee. What I'm getting at is that there are liability products available for hunting leases only. Maybe a product like that gives you the coverage you need?

Hunting Lease Liability Insurance - American Hunting Lease Association
 
   / Homeowner's Insurance in Rural Maine - Chesterville
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^^^^
That's backward logic. If he allows legal use and gets to know a few locals they can keep an eye on the place. Otherwise he has an abandoned building ripe for thieves and vandals.

I agree with you. We have allowed the hunting because we feel the hunters are likely to help keep an eye out. We are now staying there most of the time so that is not as much an issue at this time.
 
   / Homeowner's Insurance in Rural Maine - Chesterville
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What about Ag insurance for the place in Maine? Are you doing anything with the land, timber, etc, that could creatively be called "Ag"?

No. In fact we have resisted this. The farm was logged in the past and left ruts everywhere that we are spending a lot of time fixing. We enjoy walking in our woods and would rather keep them as they are. Taxes are relatively cheap there compared to NJ so the savings from any activity like that are not really attractive compared to our desire to keep the woods more natural.
 
   / Homeowner's Insurance in Rural Maine - Chesterville
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Insurance companies don稚 like peeling paint old houses because of the liability of lead paint. If it is painted over and sealed they are happy. One way to lower cost of your existing policy is to look at the replacement value they are putting on the house. Over time on older houses that number can get way higher than the house is worth due to the automatic inflation adjustments. We owned several 100-150 old houses on the farm and occasionally would tell the insurance agent to manually lower the value to a more realistic value to keep the insurance affordable. It has gotten so that there is few insurance companies that will insure older houses.

Good suggestions. My wife was an underwriter many years ago so she tends to think along these lines as well. She is handling the insurance so I am going to point her to this thread to see if anything works for us. Time is probably the primary issue at this point. She has spent many hours trying to make this all work. The new insurance in NJ is supposed to take effect but we don't want to pull the trigger permanently until everything is in place. I don't think we thought the house in Maine would be the stumbling block. Now we know better.
 
   / Homeowner's Insurance in Rural Maine - Chesterville
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I'm getting quotes and they have vastly over estimated that part, like probably double what the true cost would be. But they told me they cannot adjust that number - it's system generated based on the data put in. The best they could do is tweak things like finishes and square footage to cause the system to spit out a lower number.

Unfortunately, I think this is standard these days. Everything seems to be set up with cities and urban areas in mind. I think you are saying is that it is cheaper to build out in the country. But, since the insurance companies are all based in the cities, that is their view of the world.

This same thinking can be applied to many things. Almost everything assumes that everyone has all of the modern conveniences available. Our high speed internet is only about 7 mps because we only have DSL. There is no cable and no company is going to go to the expense to run cable to us. We don't get a good cell signal and our cell phone carrier has dropped service in our area because it was not cost effective. Someone in the city assumes that police are only a couple of minutes away. So, why would anyone want a gun? We only have a county sherrif's department and state police. It would probably take at least 30 minutes for them to respond to anything. But the folks in the city know best and are trying very hard to force their beliefs on those in rural areas. Life is very different there and has a different set of needs and wants. For quality of life, I really prefer the rural living.
 
   / Homeowner's Insurance in Rural Maine - Chesterville
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My family home is on Cape Cod, and I use it only in summer (6 mo.).
Cape Cod is considered a hurricane zone, and my all wood house there is 288 years old (built 1730).
When the premium was approaching $5000/yr. I told my local agent I would drop all coverage.
After all: I am 78 years old, could afford to build something else, plus, the 12 acres of land will not burn away.
He said let me try to find something for you.
That "something" turned out to be Lloyds of London.
Five years ago the Lloyds premium was $1600/yr. v/s $5000 elsewhere. For 2019 the Lloyds premium is $2100, but the very limited other options are likely now over $6000.

Interesting story and solution. We'll have to keep that in mind.
 

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