Growing Old With Dignity

[John White]

Life is just not fair sometimes. I have worked since a kid, many times three jobs. Most of my life I owned my own business or a business that supplemented my income. Started out as a kid, delivering the Grit family newspaper. Sometimes walked in snow above knees and made .40 a week. Thought I was in hog heaven. I have started business that made money and I couldn't even give them away when I wanted to start a new one. No one wanted to work that hard. Now that I am on the way downhill fast and if I salt away a few dollars or transfer some assets so they don't kick my wife out of the house or take one of the vehicles. I figured I paid my taxes for many years, employed other people who paid taxes and generated income for many other businesses. Every day I open up a lid and see what other people ate for lunch yesterday and pump it out. I go to the dentist and see people there on Medicaid that I know and get their teeth fixed free. No one complains of able bodied people on the dole. How much does it cost to keep a person in prison for 50 years? Or have a sex change provided by the govt. or taking care of your medical bills because you smoked your brains out on drugs or ruined your health by bad life choices. No one complains about that. I am used to the middle finger when I pull up to a stop sign and a, see a guy there with a sign there that says "will work for food" and I ask him if he will really work for food. Right now I have a son in one of my properties running a thriving business but not making enough to buy it from me yet. If I need long term care, he would loose it because it is in my name. I wont give him the property because I feel he needs to get it just like I did, "work" and pay for it. Every one thinks that people that work hard and acclimated toys and equipment did it by just having it handed to them. When it's my time to go, I hope I don't linger on and be a burden or expense to any one. By the way I have a "work for food franchise" for sale. You get a "work for food sign" a old tattered coat, shoe with a hoe in it, coffee can to collect your money and for a extra fee I will throw in a crutch and a old dog and a old Edsel down by the river you can sleep in. Call BR549.

 

[reb]

Do you guys think the charged cost of care is the same to patients that have the means to pay a high amount versus those that don't?...

It happened years ago, so I don't recall the details. A man I knew had a medical emergency--his kid got severely injured. Medical estimates were through the roof. He searched around and negotiated with a doctor to do the job at a significantly lower price. Before that happened someone discovered the kid was eligible for government assistance. The cost immediately went up to the original estimate.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Life is just not fair sometimes. I have worked since a kid, many times three jobs. Most of my life I owned my own business or a business that supplemented my income. Started out as a kid, delivering the Grit family newspaper. Sometimes walked in snow above knees and made .40 a week. Thought I was in hog heaven. I have started business that made money and I couldn't even give them away when I wanted to start a new one. No one wanted to work that hard. Now that I am on the way downhill fast and if I salt away a few dollars or transfer some assets so they don't kick my wife out of the house or take one of the vehicles. I figured I paid my taxes for many years, employed other people who paid taxes and generated income for many other businesses. Every day I open up a lid and see what other people ate for lunch yesterday and pump it out. I go to the dentist and see people there on Medicaid that I know and get their teeth fixed free. No one complains of able bodied people on the dole. How much does it cost to keep a person in prison for 50 years? Or have a sex change provided by the govt. or taking care of your medical bills because you smoked your brains out on drugs or ruined your health by bad life choices. No one complains about that. I am used to the middle finger when I pull up to a stop sign and a, see a guy there with a sign there that says "will work for food" and I ask him if he will really work for food. Right now I have a son in one of my properties running a thriving business but not making enough to buy it from me yet. If I need long term care, he would loose it because it is in my name. I wont give him the property because I feel he needs to get it just like I did, "work" and pay for it. Every one thinks that people that work hard and acclimated toys and equipment did it by just having it handed to them. When it's my time to go, I hope I don't linger on and be a burden or expense to any one. By the way I have a "work for food franchise" for sale. You get a "work for food sign" a old tattered coat, shoe with a hoe in it, coffee can to collect your money and for a extra fee I will throw in a crutch and a old dog and a old Edsel down by the river you can sleep in. Call BR549.

Ditto... Today, one doesn't know if your story and mine earns a Crown of Glory... or a Crown of Thorns.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Thus the conundrum as to why you can take a beloved pet to the vets and have them put down so they don't have to be in anymore pain, but you can't do the same for the human beings you love.

The world is full of lowlife relatives that would cheerfully "put Grandma out of her misery" so she wouldn't spend their inheritance on health care. There's a world of difference between suicide and euthanasia.

 

[turnkey4099]

Not sure if this is State driven but, here in Missouri assets transferred out of your name in the last five years can be liened.

Yep, my wife died just before I would have had to go bankrupt. I heard then about withdrawing moneys in anticipation. I had multi thousands salted away. Wouldn't have done me any good.

 

[MickeyDBC]

All I can say is safely hide a couple of pistols where you can get to them when the time comes. I watched my father in law suffer horribly from cancer for the last six months of his life and know he would have ended it if he could have. When the time comes go mow the edge of the pond with the bad tractor and go out on your own terms.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

All I can say is safely hide a couple of pistols where you can get to them when the time comes. I watched my father in law suffer horribly from cancer for the last six months of his life and know he would have ended it if he could have. When the time comes go mow the edge of the pond with the bad tractor and go out on your own terms.

Probably happens more than you think...

 

[Jstpssng]

I believe that my father chose his time to die, when Alzheimers took away everything that he was. He had worked hard all of his life and fought it for longer than the doctors said it was possible; yet it finally got to where my mother couldn't take care of him and he went into assisted living. He walked in on his own, the day after he turned 83; 3 weeks later when I went to see him he hadn't been out of bed in days. 6 weeks after his admittance he simply stopped eating and passed away 3 days later. He had worked hard all of his life, never asking for help from anybody; although he was the person people called when they needed help. We always knew that he wouIdn't last long in a nursing home.

It's harder to watch the one's that you love get old, than it is to do it ourselves.

 

[atsah]

I have seen people just plain drop dead and others that didn't deserve years of torture, I have seen many stop eating because there was no other way, death can be quick or it can be a living he!!, not much we can about any of it.

 

[Oldoak]

It's harder to watch the one's that you love get old, than it is to do it ourselves.

That's a fact!

My wife and I discussed this more than once and we asked each other, what's going to happen if/when we get that way.

I just say, hopefully we won't know it.