Ford or Dodge?

[dalola]

Based on the roads in Ohio, no way I would DD a HD truck! You guys that do must have iron kidneys.

The new half tons ride so good anymore, better than some cars, and just as quiet, if not more so. And in the case of the Ecoboost F150's, will embarrass the occasional smart-@ss in his BMW....

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^^
Some people complain that the new trucks aren't as good because they do ride so nicely. My back disagrees though, and I've been bounced around in those older trucks enough to appreciate what I drive now.

 

[ovrszd]

I think my F250 rides very good. Has excellent seats. Almost droves itself. No wandering. Stops on a dime.

It's a 2000 PS 10ply tires F350 springs.

 

[slus]

My thing is I don稚 really haul heavy, but I do haul bulky stuff. Rarely do I need to haul more than a ton and then I borrow a neighbors trailer to haul it. Payload is usually not my issue, but space is.

Got it. I must see 10 F150 regular cab long bed 1/2 tons to every 1 of the equivalent Rams, which is surprising since Ram undercuts prices on 3/4 and 1 tons by a good margin, so lots of fleets put out lowest bid contracts for those trucks and you see work truck Ram 2500s and 3500s all day long. Ford is king of 1/2 tons. F150s were for a lot of years, and probably still are, the best selling VEHICLE in America for a reason. Not truck, best selling out of all vehicles sold. Does Chevy/GMC still make a half ton regular cab long bed? I've seriously never seen ONE on the road.

Payload on a base model F150 regular cab long bed will actually be higher than a lot of the 3/4 ton crew cab diesels out there. Every pound of extra cab space, leather interior trim and electronic gadget takes weight off the payload capacity.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

As for what brand of truck you mostly see, it depends on where you live. Some area's are full of Dodges, other area's/states, Chevy or Fords...

Yes in 2018 Chevy built a lot of single cab long beds, and with the 2019's chevy pu's being all new, they will start building single cabs again, later in the year.

Around here, there's a LOT of Chevys but you see the others around too... I have all three, but there's no doubt in my mind, when the trucks get old, the Chevys have held up the best and have had less repairs to get there...

SR

 

[Jstpssng]

I think my F250 rides very good. Has excellent seats. Almost droves itself. No wandering. Stops on a dime.

It's a 2000 PS 10ply tires F350 springs.

Travel with me for a week and you may find that you want a little more give in your ride.

 

[jk96]

They put a big enough "RAM" on the **** thing and they keep getting bigger..

Agree,
My 2012 didn't have the billboard size badge on it. They look ridiculous. First thing I did to mine was remove all of the different badges on the truck other than the small cummins badge.

 

[atsah]

I think my F250 rides very good. Has excellent seats. Almost droves itself. No wandering. Stops on a dime.

It's a 2000 PS 10ply tires F350 springs.

Had one of those, the ride leaves a lot to be desired. These new 1/2 tons ride like a dream in comparison.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Had one of those, the ride leaves a lot to be desired. These new 1/2 tons ride like a dream in comparison.

And they haul a decent load... It's no one ton, but I don't haul one ton size loads all the time.

There's NO WAY I could live with 15 mpg for a daily driver pu.!!

SR

 

[atsah]

And they haul a decent load... It's no one ton, but I don't haul one ton size loads all the time.

There's NO WAY I could live with 15 mpg for a daily driver pu.!!

SR

Agreed..

 

[ovrszd]

I drive 1K miles a month. Sooooooo,,,,,,,, I should spend $40K to buy a new truck that rides better and gets better mileage??? :confused3:

My overhead hasn't been reset since I bought the truck. It says 18.5 mpg. The few times I've done the math it's been 15 mpg.

For a truck that will do the work it does, I think it gets excellent mileage. When your new trucks are 19 years old and have 260K miles on them we'll talk again about how nice they are.

 

[atsah]

I drive 1K miles a month. Sooooooo,,,,,,,, I should spend $40K to buy a new truck that rides better and gets better mileage??? :confused3:

My overhead hasn't been reset since I bought the truck. It says 18.5 mpg. The few times I've done the math it's been 15 mpg.

For a truck that will do the work it does, I think it gets excellent mileage. When your new trucks are 19 years old and have 260K miles on them we'll talk again about how nice they are.

Not telling anyone what to buy, just stating the facts..

 

[Turbys_1700]

I drove a 2003 F350 dually 4x4 crew for 11 years as a daily driver. We pulled a fifth wheel camper during that time. It rode like a F350. Parking was a bear. But it was perfect for pulling the camper. I loved it. Had to replace an alternator. I put 75K miles on it in 11 years.

We don't camp anymore so I now drive an 07 2500 HD Chevy. It rides OK and is easier to park than the dually. My only issue is the access getting in and out of the truck. Took it to a fabricator and lowered the Nerf bars 2". Tolerable but still high for a short ball fat old man. It's a good truck.

If I was in the market like you I would get a 1/2 ton with the highest payload available. I've never owned a RAM but a close friend makes his living repossessing vehicles. He runs nothing but RAM's HD and swears by them.

As the baby boomers are retiring truck manufacturers are building good riding 1/2 ton crew cabs for the family with easy egress. It's difficult to get both ride quality and haul capacity. My 2500 rides good but, if you hit highways in need of repair on the interstate at speed it will rattle your chops. That is the trade off for a relatively short WB extended cab 9200# 4x4 rated truck.

 

[ovrszd]

Not telling anyone what to buy, just stating the facts..

As we all are.

 

[slus]

I drive 1K miles a month. Sooooooo,,,,,,,, I should spend $40K to buy a new truck that rides better and gets better mileage??? :confused3:

My overhead hasn't been reset since I bought the truck. It says 18.5 mpg. The few times I've done the math it's been 15 mpg.

For a truck that will do the work it does, I think it gets excellent mileage. When your new trucks are 19 years old and have 260K miles on them we'll talk again about how nice they are.

Those calculations are fun. I had a boss that traded in one Prius for another, and said it was the best money he ever spent. Without getting too much off track, it was cheaper to buy a 5,000 dollar work truck that got 12mpg and scrap it every 5 years for another in his situation. Obviously less and less true the more you drive/longer you keep the vehicle.

In your case, driving 1000 miles a month and getting 15mpg @ $3.29 a gallon, it would take 28.5 years to break even buying a 40,000 new truck, even if it got 25mpg and you sold your current truck for 10k. Not counting maintenance costs, which can be significant.

 

[ovrszd]

Those calculations are fun. I had a boss that traded in one Prius for another, and said it was the best money he ever spent. Without getting too much off track, it was cheaper to buy a 5,000 dollar work truck that got 12mpg and scrap it every 5 years for another in his situation. Obviously less and less true the more you drive/longer you keep the vehicle.

In your case, driving 1000 miles a month and getting 15mpg @ $3.29 a gallon, it would take 28.5 years to break even buying a 40,000 new truck, even if it got 25mpg and you sold your current truck for 10k. Not counting maintenance costs, which can be significant.

I knew it would take awhile to pay out but never dreamed it'd be that long. And not sure the purchased truck would last that long!!!

 

[Sawyer Rob]

In your case, driving 1000 miles a month and getting 15mpg @ $3.29 a gallon, it would take 28.5 years to break even buying a 40,000 new truck, even if it got 25mpg and you sold your current truck for 10k. Not counting maintenance costs, which can be significant.

First of all, you don't have to spend 40K to get a NEW decent equipped 1/2 ton...

Secondly, you do get 5 to 10K back when you sell it, even with high millage...

I just kept my older HD truck and bought a new 1/2 ton, so for the once in a great while I need a HD pu, I have one around to do that job.

SR

 

[atsah]

I'm seeing a lot of 1/2 tons around here with 8-10K miles on them for 25-26 grand.. Original stickers of 38K

That's how I bought most of my trucks, a year old with less than 15K on them, I saved a lot of money..

 

[Granthol]

I see a lot of used ones, decent deals, but I don’t want a crew cab with a 5.5 foot bed. That’s about all I see used. Rarely do you see a used ref cab long bed less than 10 years old for sale, unless it’s new and those aren’t all that prevalent. And you better want white.

 

[Jstpssng]

I drive 1K miles a month. Sooooooo,,,,,,,, I should spend $40K to buy a new truck that rides better and gets better mileage??? :confused3:

My overhead hasn't been reset since I bought the truck. It says 18.5 mpg. The few times I've done the math it's been 15 mpg.

For a truck that will do the work it does, I think it gets excellent mileage. When your new trucks are 19 years old and have 260K miles on them we'll talk again about how nice they are.

Nobody suggested that you do. The comments I've read were directed to your statement "I think my F250 rides very good...."
The roads in Missouri must be a lot better than places that I travel.