Ice Melt

[buckeyefarmer]

Pine do you really believe the ice melt in Greenland has natural causes and humans have nothing to do with it? Time will tell.

I really believe it. Stop smoking the GW weed, maybe that will help.

 

[rekees4300]

The whole subject is political. "All the ice is melting, life as we know it will end" or something along those lines. This BS has been discussed on TBN multiple times, these threads always turn out the same.

Post #2 was the best response.

I really believe it. Stop smoking the GW weed, maybe that will help.

My intent was to keep this thread non-political but I can't control postings from others. Yes there have been many TBN Climate Change threads over the years. This one is different because its focus is ice melt.

I don't smoke GW weed, I eat ICE cream.

BTW why is your name "buckeyefarmer" but you live in Maryland? Buckeye is the nickname for Ohio residents.

 

[Egon]

Lots of opinions from those not knowledgeable like myself. What do the knowledgeable say.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Umm, ice cream. We need to protect Ice cream from melting. There's a good cause.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Im a buckeye with a farm in ohio.

 

[rekees4300]

Lots of opinions from those not knowledgeable like myself. What do the knowledgeable say.

IMO the knowledgeable say Climate Change is real and it's caused primarily by humans. They use the acronym "AGW" which stands for Anthropogenic Global Warming. The word Anthropogenic means caused or produced by humans.

 

[rekees4300]

Umm, ice cream. We need to protect Ice cream from melting. There's a good cause.

BINGO :laughing:

Im a buckeye with a farm in ohio.

Hmmm must be one helleva commute from Maryland ... especially on a tractor.

 

[lilranch2001]

Then I suggest you keep head in the sand like all the other skeptics. It would be illogical to believe anything a "hypocrite" says. :laughing:

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Do not worry about me, YOU have absolutely no credibility with me!

 

[lilranch2001]

at least 50 years of alarmists warning that the end is going to be in the next decade, yet here we are, all the hypocrites telling everyone else that they should quit burning fossil fuels, as they continue on their own greedy self serving ways.

CATACLYSM I tell you, CATACLYSM!!!

WAIT, we still live on beautiful Mother Earth, and we have actually in the US improved our environment in the last 40 years!

 

[Chris616]

What I find very interesting is that all the GW, GC, fans are still burning fossil fuels, driving cars, eating steak, running AC in their houses all summer.

It just seems to me if they were the true believers they seem to claim to be, they would be digging caves in their back yards and living in them.....

Heck most of the high and mighty fly in private jets to all their highly important climate meetings......

Something just smells fishy to me.... and its not the fish kill that some corporate polluter has caused!

These are two separate issues.

Whether you believe that AGW (human caused global warming) is happening is one issue.

How you choose to react to AGW is a second issue and is ultimately up to you. You might say that you recognize that AGW is happening, but you're not willing to do anything about it. That's your decision.

It's not hypocritical to believe that AGW is happening and still drive cars, burn fossil fuels, etc. I believe that AGW is happening and do those things, because alternatives that make sense in my situation aren't yet available. I've looked at electric cars, but we don't live in the city where they might be practical. We did, for example, replace the electric baseboard heating in our house with a heat pump, which cut our electricity usage hugely.

My only interest, as far as this thread goes, is the first issue. I just can't understand how people cannot believe that AGW is happening. Like everyone(?) else on TBN, my scientific training is not in climate science, so I have no way to personally analyze the data and come to my own conclusions. Instead I believe what experts in the field are saying because I believe in the system of checks and balances of peer-reviewed studies.

What's a "Peer-reviewed study"? Say you asked a question on TBN about a maintenance issue with a Kubota tractor and instead of anyone in the world chiming in with an answer those comments had to go through a screening by folks who had decades of experience in servicing those tractors. You'd trust those answers a lot more than comments from some anonymous poster who may or may not know what they're talking about, right?

Any of us who have lived 50+ years have enough experience to know, anecdotally, that our climate is changing. I believe that the cause is AGW because I believe in the scientific process. As I wrote above, I didn't understand how others couldn't come to the same conclusion. I did a bit of Googling about "distrust of science". This article pretty much sums it up for me.

(Dis)trust in Science - Scientific American Blog Network

Chris