Will be buying a newer truck soon.

   / Will be buying a newer truck soon. #31  
I was referring to buying new. My 2012 is a 2500 and has colum shift. I think up till 2017 all weæ±*e colum but in 2018 or 2019 only the 2500 and 3500 have a colum shift.
 
   / Will be buying a newer truck soon. #32  
Id go with either a 2.7 or 3.5 Ecoboost from Ford, or the GM 2.7 Turbo gasser.
 
   / Will be buying a newer truck soon. #34  
i would suggest just bypassing the 1/2 tons and go right to the 3/4 tons as your starting point. In most cases, a 3/4 ton can be driven off the lot for less money than a 1/2 ton. It is all about the market. Even if one doesn't get a lower cost for a 3/4 ton compared to a 1/2 ton, for the same price one gets a far more capable pickup truck in a 3/4 ton.

I know prices can seem high, but I never pay more than 80% of the MSRP, and usually less. That still leaves a considerable profit for the dealer. I have seen 2020 Chevy 2500 6.6L gassers with sticker prices of $49K selling for $40K. 401 HP / 464 torque, 14.5K tow rating and 3700 lb payload. There is no 1/2 ton that can compare in capability at any price. Try getting the maximum capable 2020 1/2 ton and driving it off the lot for $40K.

Similar comparisons can be made with the other brands.

Pickup trucks tend to be like computers. It is always best to get more capability than you think you need now, because at some point later, one is likely to outgrow the capability of the pickup they have.
 
   / Will be buying a newer truck soon. #35  
Put your brand loyalty aside, and test drive an EB (any of the three) F150. If truck performance matters to you, I don't know how you would chose anything else.
 
   / Will be buying a newer truck soon. #36  
Just looked at both trucks power #

Dodge ram 385HP, 410 TQ

Sliverodo Hp 285 Tq 325

I'm leaning to the ram the power # look so much better. As far as the millage difference I think it's about 2 or 3 miles.

Current Silverado 5.3 is 355 HP and 383 TQ
 
   / Will be buying a newer truck soon. #37  
To the best of my knowledge on the RAMs the rotary shift knob comes on the 8 speed autos, the lever is the 6 speed.
 
   / Will be buying a newer truck soon. #39  
i would suggest just bypassing the 1/2 tons and go right to the 3/4 tons as your starting point. In most cases, a 3/4 ton can be driven off the lot for less money than a 1/2 ton. It is all about the market. Even if one doesn't get a lower cost for a 3/4 ton compared to a 1/2 ton, for the same price one gets a far more capable pickup truck in a 3/4 ton.

I'm not sure I agree with that logic. Keep in mind that in many/most states a 3/4 ton truck will cost more to register and maybe to insure. Operating and repair costs will likely be higher too. In 45 years of owning trucks I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times that a half ton didn't do everything I needed it to do. If you think there's a good chance you might need that extra capacity, by all means go for it, but no sense buying more truck than you need.

I will never drop 40k pluse for a pick up!

No argument that vehicle (and especially truck) prices have gotten out of control, that's why I never buy new. Trouble is, there's always that one option you want/need that's only available as part of a higher trim package that includes a bunch of crap you'll never use.
Even a decent used truck that hasn't been run into the ground is pricey too.
 
   / Will be buying a newer truck soon. #40  
I've got a 2014 F 150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost and power is never an issue empty or loaded. Normally dragging 6700 lbs of horses, tack and horse trailer the rig gets 11-12 mpg and towing my tractor on a trailer your pushing 8-9000 lbs and again power is never an issue (and before you safety police show up the trailer brakes work just fine and I have no problem stopping).

You won't believe how the 3.5 performs until you try one.
 

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