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I find that many times CHEAP isn't worth it.
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I find that many times CHEAP isn't worth it.
Industrial Toys
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If I compare three dollars, free shipping, compared to maybe forty from a retailer, and I buy enough stuff, I can afford to request refunds occassionally or even eat the loss once in a while.
3Ts
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I don't know about folks on this site, but I do know people who had not left their county let alone state and thought that was a good thing. (Or at least they claim to.) People's opinions are based on their experiences. Traveling to other areas is an experience itself. For example, folks in New England have no concept of distances involved in the west unless they actually travel there. My BIL is into military history and could not understand why some of the campaigns is south Florida were so difficult, until he came out and we visited the everglades. There are many things that you have to see and experience to truly understand.
I've found that in my travels, most people are willing to try to get along and are willing to help even if they don't know you.
BRMyers
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‘Wartime Conditions’: China Plans Tougher Steps in Locked-Down Wuhan - The New York Times
WUHAN, China — Comparing the struggle to contain the new coronavirus to mobilization for war, the Chinese authorities announced plans on Thursday to force a growing number of desperate residents into quarantine in overflowing hospitals or makeshift shelters with limited medical equipment.
Sun Chunlan, a vice premier responsible for leading the response to the outbreak, said the health authorities in Wuhan, the city at the epicenter of the outbreak, should go to each home to check the temperatures of every resident and interview the close contacts of any infected patients — working in shifts around the clock.
The city and country face “wartime conditions,” she said during a visit to Wuhan. “There must be no deserters, or they will be nailed to the pillar of historical shame forever.”
WUHAN, China — Comparing the struggle to contain the new coronavirus to mobilization for war, the Chinese authorities announced plans on Thursday to force a growing number of desperate residents into quarantine in overflowing hospitals or makeshift shelters with limited medical equipment.
Sun Chunlan, a vice premier responsible for leading the response to the outbreak, said the health authorities in Wuhan, the city at the epicenter of the outbreak, should go to each home to check the temperatures of every resident and interview the close contacts of any infected patients — working in shifts around the clock.
The city and country face “wartime conditions,” she said during a visit to Wuhan. “There must be no deserters, or they will be nailed to the pillar of historical shame forever.”
Industrial Toys
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I remember as a child of six or ten (?) visiting Germany and having a heated argument with children my age, insisting Germnay was larger than Canada. Maybe Uber Alles, but not bigger! lol
Mail lady just drove up and delivered my 140 piece Stainless crimp-on OEM style hose clamps from China, $16,99 USD, FREE shipping! I'm so happy I can hardly contain myself! Cut the packaging open with my kitchen scissors that I then used to cut the lettice to make my breakfast sndwich.
Mail lady just drove up and delivered my 140 piece Stainless crimp-on OEM style hose clamps from China, $16,99 USD, FREE shipping! I'm so happy I can hardly contain myself! Cut the packaging open with my kitchen scissors that I then used to cut the lettice to make my breakfast sndwich.
desertdog71
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I work for the company flying people back to the US from China and reading comments on those news stories really was irritating and amazed me at just how stupid and deluded a lot of people are. A story that should be about getting our citizens out of a potentially dangerous situation turns into conspiracy about population control and worse. If you were there for work or whatever you'd probably be pretty happy that people were wiling to come get you.
Anyways, we all like our stuff, and we like to buy it at low prices. That gets done by having the stuff produced where its cheaper to hire people to do the job and less regulation to worry about. China has some of the worst air quality in the world for this reason. Much like the US used to have awful air quality when we produced things in our own country. We basically exported our pollution is one way of looking at it. Many of these products simply cannot be made in the US because of regulation. On one hand we want cheap stuff, on the other we want to breathe. On one hand we want to keep jobs in the US, on the other we're not willing to pay the premium on what it costs to produce things here. We're a victim of our own prosperity in many ways.
I fly tons of products from China all year round to the United States. I also fly products to China from the US, Canada, Chile and other places. As they grow they like products from other parts of the world too. Cherries from Chile, Lobsters from New Brunswick, Apples from Washington, etc. In return we get Iphones, shoes, computers, etc at prices we are willing to pay. I personally get to work every month flying the stuff around that people buy on both sides of the Pacific. I think it's a pretty good system for everybody involved.
As for the virus, are we getting the whole story? probably not. As stated before we all live in a web of lies and propaganda. My experience is that China isn't some despotic 3rd world **** hole like it gets portrayed. It's actually pretty modern for the most part, with contrasting poor rural areas. They're probably a couple decades behind in a lot of ways and then on par or more advanced in others. The people stare at you like you're in a zoo because how many 260lb white guys do they see every day? For the most part they are very friendly and helpful, and I feel safer walking the streets there than most places in the world.
Yes they do censor their news, I've seen it first hand, especially when the Hong Kong protests were going on. They feed the people BS just like we do in the US. They block Google and Facebook but any local can show you how to bypass the nanny state stuff better than anyone. I find it to be an interesting place with some great people.
Anyways, we all like our stuff, and we like to buy it at low prices. That gets done by having the stuff produced where its cheaper to hire people to do the job and less regulation to worry about. China has some of the worst air quality in the world for this reason. Much like the US used to have awful air quality when we produced things in our own country. We basically exported our pollution is one way of looking at it. Many of these products simply cannot be made in the US because of regulation. On one hand we want cheap stuff, on the other we want to breathe. On one hand we want to keep jobs in the US, on the other we're not willing to pay the premium on what it costs to produce things here. We're a victim of our own prosperity in many ways.
I fly tons of products from China all year round to the United States. I also fly products to China from the US, Canada, Chile and other places. As they grow they like products from other parts of the world too. Cherries from Chile, Lobsters from New Brunswick, Apples from Washington, etc. In return we get Iphones, shoes, computers, etc at prices we are willing to pay. I personally get to work every month flying the stuff around that people buy on both sides of the Pacific. I think it's a pretty good system for everybody involved.
As for the virus, are we getting the whole story? probably not. As stated before we all live in a web of lies and propaganda. My experience is that China isn't some despotic 3rd world **** hole like it gets portrayed. It's actually pretty modern for the most part, with contrasting poor rural areas. They're probably a couple decades behind in a lot of ways and then on par or more advanced in others. The people stare at you like you're in a zoo because how many 260lb white guys do they see every day? For the most part they are very friendly and helpful, and I feel safer walking the streets there than most places in the world.
Yes they do censor their news, I've seen it first hand, especially when the Hong Kong protests were going on. They feed the people BS just like we do in the US. They block Google and Facebook but any local can show you how to bypass the nanny state stuff better than anyone. I find it to be an interesting place with some great people.
Industrial Toys
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We are almost always our own worst enemy. Individually and collectively. Hard to go back when you have tasted cheap affordable consumerism.
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I worked with a former Arkansas hillbilly who had never seen the ocean or mountains. His dad moved up to the area and after that he was probably never more than 200 miles from home. He would take two weeks off at deer season and that was his life. The guys in the shop badgered him to at least take his kids to Florida to see Disney World and the ocean which I think he finally did.
I thought I would try an order from Banggood a few weeks ago but it won't be here until end of the month.
I thought I would try an order from Banggood a few weeks ago but it won't be here until end of the month.
Industrial Toys
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Me like BANGGOOD. No bad experience.
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The only things that have removed china from "third world" status is parlaying their natural resources into cash to buy technologies that they could not steal from more sophisticated nations and industries...
...In many ways they are still "third world"
...In many ways they are still "third world"
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