Corona Virus #6

[Gale Hawkins]

Has anyone seen the numbers on people who have to go on a ventilator and what their chances of survival are with COVID-19?

A Medical Worker Describes Terrifying Lung Failure From COVID-19 — Even in His Young Patients — ProPublica

This does not say how many live but that about a 1/3 of COVID-19 patients will need one. The picture painted is itself painful.

 

[ruffdog]

A Medical Worker Describes Terrifying Lung Failure From COVID-19 — Even in His Young Patients — ProPublica

This does not say how many live but that about a 1/3 of COVID-19 patients will need one. The picture painted is itself painful.

That is VERY bad.

 

[ultrarunner]

Elon Musk: Should Have 1 Ventilators Next Week, + 25, N95 Masks For Hospitals Tomorrow CleanTechnica Exclusive | CleanTechnica

I had the same thought when I read the above. Is it like they are setting in warehouses and no one has be ordering them? At one time USA manufactures had contracts with military and in storage they had the dies and equipment to make a lot of military equipment on a very short order.

The May delivery date for Israel makes me think they see a long term need.

A long time ago when I worked in the tool and die side of things the second floor loft of the shop had an immense section of strategic reserve items in storage for the defense... dies, jigs, fixtures... etc... sometime in the 1990's I went by the old shop... I still had my tool box there.

Saw they were cleaning out the loft and asked what was up... the gov had declared everything obsolete and gave notice it would no longer pay rent and the shop owner was tossing 98% for scrap...

So there most definitely was a time when the idea of strategic widely dispersed goods held at the ready was integral...

 

[txdon]

A Medical Worker Describes Terrifying Lung Failure From COVID-19 — Even in His Young Patients — ProPublica

This does not say how many live but that about a 1/3 of COVID-19 patients will need one. The picture painted is itself painful.

Here it says 10% will need ventilation.
"In a March letter, professionals coordinating the response in northern Italy wrote that hospitals in the area are seeing a high number of ICU admissions, because of respiratory failure that requires ventilation. About 10% of all patients who've tested positive for the virus have been admitted to ICUs, they wrote."
Coronavirus: intensive care unit, shortages of ventilators, staff, space - Business Insider

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Two more members of tragic NJ family infected with coronavirus

I am starting to realize I do not have a clue as to how this virus is going to impact my life.

 

[ultrarunner]

Long term on a ventilator is not good. They are considered last resort and are also called....life support.

As a kid we there was a well know polio survivor near the Claremont Hotel on an iron lung... as high school kids we would always wave going by and a lot of others did too... some have spent 60 years in these machines...

The story said the last were retired two or three years ago after decades of service.

Iron lung is simple... the combination of chamber vacuum and pressure compress and decompress the lungs...

The case can even be made a CPAP machine could even help a little.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Here it says 10% will need ventilation.
"In a March letter, professionals coordinating the response in northern Italy wrote that hospitals in the area are seeing a high number of ICU admissions, because of respiratory failure that requires ventilation. About 10% of all patients who've tested positive for the virus have been admitted to ICUs, they wrote."
Coronavirus: intensive care unit, shortages of ventilators, staff, space - Business Insider

I read it is a rough way to go out if the ventilator is not enough.

 

[MGH PA]

I decided to stay off the forums and social media all day. It worked...until I came back here tonight. Now I'm back to assuming the world is basically ending. I need to be lose the technology.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

As a kid we there was a well know person on an iron lung... as high school kids we would always wave going by and a lot of others did too...

Iron lung is simple... you go from the next down in a chamber and the combination of chamber vacuum and pressure compress and decompress the lungs...

The case can even be made a CPAP machine could even help a little.

I was just thinking about that but that would only be an option if one was staying home I expect. The one story said if you are put on a vent that the oxygen level will start off at about max so I guess a CPAP would not be helpful at that point. I have been using a CPAP since 2004 and it helped save me because before I was going to sleep doing dangerous things.

 

[sd455dan]

A Medical Worker Describes Terrifying Lung Failure From COVID-19 — Even in His Young Patients — ProPublica

This does not say how many live but that about a 1/3 of COVID-19 patients will need one. The picture painted is itself painful.

That article may be the biggest reality check I have read since hearing about this disease.

The leaked footage of the overrun Chinese hospital and the recorded call to the Funeral home operator are sobering to.

It points out just how bad it can get and just how fast things can change for the people who do end up on a ventilator.