Corona Virus #7

[randy41]

the governor here in Virginia has issued a stay at home order today through early June. The number of cases in VA topped 1000 today.

 

[daugen]

my sister takes Hydroxychloroquine for a mild form of lupus, and last time she tried to renew scrip it was out of stock.
Making her a little nervous.

 

[dragoneggs]

I was half joking about the appearance of the senior author and indeed I pointed out that I have worked with some pretty weird looking scientists who I hold in high regard. Einstein didn't announce his theories on YouTube!

Because he hadn't gotten around to inventing it... but I bet he would have used the medium! :laughing:

No arguments on the need for extreme comprehensive testing before a medical product is available to the masses but I am also in support of 'experimental' not completely vetted drugs to be used, if the patient is in 'very bad' (incurable) shape and requests or consents whether they are part of some study or not.

 

[dragoneggs]

the governor here in Virginia has issued a stay at home order today through early June. The number of cases in VA topped 1000 today.

Wow early June... thinking that is the longest duration of any state now.

 

[IslandTractor]

Because he hadn't gotten around to inventing it... but I bet he would have used the medium! :laughing:

No arguments on the need for extreme comprehensive testing before a medical product is available to the masses but I am also in support of 'experimental' not completely vetted drugs to be used, if the patient is in 'very bad' (incurable) shape and requests or consents whether they are part of some study or not.

I don't disagree with experimental use in a critical situation so long as it is reasonably controlled and fairly allocated. Free for all is not a good idea. Most people don't know for example that chloroquine can have effects on heart (prolonging QT interval which can lead to problems). It also doesn't make sense for the drug to be stockpiled in someone's medicine cabinet "just in case" when there are other potential uses (like daugen's sister).

For what it's worth, I heard from an ER colleague in NOLA that they are using chloroquine in sick patients and finding it makes no difference. Obviously that is also just an anecdotal assessment.

 

[rswyan]

Wow early June... thinking that is the longest duration of any state now.

I'd expect to see other states extend as well ...

 

[newbury]

I'd expect to see other states extend as well ...

Take whatever they say and double or triple it. Even if they come out with a magic vaccine/cure just the worldwide distribution will take months if not years.

 

[CalG]

Has anyone seen creditable data regarding Covid infection and fatalities related to occupational exposure?

Certainly those in the front line healthcare occupations will have a greater presence, they are in the mix.

But I wonder about grocery store employees. They are the epitome of "social isolation" defiance.

 

[rswyan]

Take whatever they say and double or triple it.

If responsible government officials/politicians - following the good advice of competent public health officials acting in the public interest - have their way, then yeah ...

Even if they come out with a magic vaccine/cure just the worldwide distribution will take months if not years.

Yup ... pretty much ... :thumbsup:

 

[IslandTractor]

Has anyone seen creditable data regarding Covid infection and fatalities related to occupational exposure?

Certainly those in the front line healthcare occupations will have a greater presence, they are in the mix.

But I wonder about grocery store employees. They are the epitome of "social isolation" defiance.

I've been to a couple of grocery stores in the past couple of weeks. I don't see staff interacting with customers much at all. The deli counter and meat counter where you would have conversations with the staff have been shut down temporarily. The cashiers at check out are protected by a 4ft by 4ft plexiglass barrier. I imagine most restocking is still done at night when customers are gone. The staff at most "risk" of being close to customers are the produce guys who are constantly refilling bins of produce.