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I have not greased bar since the bar that came with the first saw ever owned. Some manufacturers don't even include a grease hole. I've not had any problems with tips wearing out prematurely.

Really an ole New Englander like you!!!!!!!!!!! Well maybe it doesn't make a difference, maybe the tip gets enough lube from bar oil, maybe not greasing the bar tip would leave out all the aggravation of trying to get that blanking bar tip greaser to work in the first place.
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #12,632  
I haven't greased a bar in decades, and never had a problem. Even the training guy from Tilton's down there in NH always said "If you're going to grease, do it often." The only time I"ve ever seen anybody blow out tips on a regular basis was one of my coworkers when I was doing R/W maintenance down in NH years ago; he didn't want to throw the chain, so used to wind the chain up as tight as he could get it. I believe that he was chaining bars about every week.
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #12,634  
Back in the day on the muddy skid yard I used round but I haven't that in years, now I just us full chisel on my firewood and try to get it all cut down and out before mud season, most of the time I win. I think square is for chainsaw milling something I'm allergic to.

Most of the time square is used when falling timber out in the PNW its a more efficient cutter allowing us to use either a smaller saw with a longer bar. IMG_0896.jpg
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These are square ground straight off my pro sharp grinder.
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #12,635  
We use this style mainly but I do have the other style as well, I grease, grind, clean the air filter, clean bar rails, and grease the clutch bearing daily. I grease them till I see clean grease coming out then spin and do that a few times.

What are you guys running for chain round/square, chisel/semi chisel?

You got that right. I grease my tip everytime I fill the gas tank.
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #12,636  
Good job I watched it couple times!!! Takes a little effort on them little firs dont it, it was so little the video couldn't even get it all, almost like one tree makes one house.

From memory it made about 180’ of good logs with the rest getting busted all to (fill in the blank). That’s not that bad of wedging if they’re too bad I’ll put the jacks in the back before the face goes in or throw some wedges in before the face comes out to aid in the correct placement. Then there’s a few other ways to get stuff to move around like a sizwheel and Dutchman to swing or pull the tree on the stump.
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #12,637  
I haven't greased a bar in decades, and never had a problem. Even the training guy from Tilton's down there in NH always said "If you're going to grease, do it often." The only time I"ve ever seen anybody blow out tips on a regular basis was one of my coworkers when I was doing R/W maintenance down in NH years ago; he didn't want to throw the chain, so used to wind the chain up as tight as he could get it. I believe that he was chaining bars about every week.

That's part of what stopped me from greasing. I heard the same thing from a manufacturer's rep and a GOL/LEAP instructor: "IF you are not going to grease the tip, then NEVER do it. If you are going to grease the tip, do it often." They both explained that once you grease the tip, you are committed. You need to keep greasing. When the grease warms up it expands, coming out of the tip a bit. Dirt and sawdust stick to the exposed grease. When it cools and contracts, it pulls some of that grit back into the bearings. You need to flush that grit out by pumping in more grease.

After hearing that, I never greased a bar again
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #12,638  
We were told that it forms a ring inside the bar around the peripheral of the sprocket, which prevents the bar oil from getting to the tip.
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #12,639  
I have NEVER greased the tip of the bar. I have never had a problem either.

I was told it brought grit into the grease and was worse than not greasing it. Over 30 years of hard logging has proven that I point I think.
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #12,640  
But I do not buy bar and chain oil either. It is supposed to save wear on a bar, but bars still wear out when using itt. I use old engine oil, old vegetable oil, anything I can get for free or very cheap (if I have to buy oil).

What bar and chain oil costs, is far more than what a bar is worth. I use junk oil and still get 150-200 cords per bar. Why would I spend 10 times more on special bar and chain oil to get an extra 50 cords on a $40 bar. It just does not make any sense. Besides, how else would I get rid of my old engine oil? (LOL)
 

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