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[Jstpssng]

No, I understood that, and was in NO WAY upset at you. I was just pointing out that farmers get blamed for things they do not do sometimes. It is much easier to fix a problem that is not there, like giving farmers money for conservation reasons, when it would be VERY expensive to get 400 houses on a lake to have proper septic systems.

Overall, I feel blessed to live in Maine because I can go out hiking, find a stream, and take a drink without worrying about getting sick. In other parts of the USA, that is not possible.

I know what you mean, and have seen things over the years that make me scratch my head. I know several people with grandfathered camps right on the water that have been in their family for years, who tell me they have know idea what their toilet flushed into. I was working a property line about 25 years ago and the abutter had just built a new camp. Their outhouse was built right over a year round stream, so that they never had to shovel out the hole. That stream fed into East Grand Lake, a prize salmon water up here/
I could never understand why somebody with a nice place on the lake would want to swim in their own chit, or eat fish out of the same place where their septic leaches into the lake. A lot of lakeside homes, at least in southern Maine where I grew up started out as seasonal camps, and then expanded to year round residences using the same waste disposal system.

 

[hunt4570]

Now you're starting to sound like a Beatle's song. :laughing:

Good song by the way.. but that is how it is in that nasty state..

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I also heard that rototilling is about the worst thing you can do for soil long term. It sure fluffs up the soil where the tines hit, but it also causes vibration below that compacts the soil where the tines do not hit. That causes the soil to kind of be bowl shaped, and stems root development and such. I really do not know how much truth to there is in that, but that is what they say.

I don't know who "they" are, but it must be the folks who build plows... lol

The truth is, WAAAAAAAY too many people over till their soil, and that's what gives tillers a bad rap!!

A plow creates compaction, so does a disc... There is no perfect tool for ALL soils...

SR

 

[hunt4570]

I rather listen to Julie Andrews doe a deer...........

Doe a deer, a female deer..
They're the ones you want to kill
Slice her up in to some steaks
That you put out on the grill
Oh you know they taste so good
Just the way you knew they would
Which will bring us back to doe a deer.....

 

[Jstpssng]

I don't know who "they" are, but it must be the folks who build plows... lol

The truth is, WAAAAAAAY too many people over till their soil, and that's what gives tillers a bad rap!!

A plow creates compaction, so does a disc... There is no perfect tool for ALL soils...

SR

Plow layers have long been a problem no matter what you use. They keep finding ways to dig deeper and deeper, but after a certain point the soil isn't worth planting in anyways.
That may be exclusive to New England however, I've seen pictures of what some of you farther out have to work with. As I've said before, I can understand why farmers moved west 150 years ago.
I have both plow/harrow, and a TSC (Countyline) tiller. I also built a bedding implement so that I can raise the soil up another 4 inches after tilling or plowing.

The one thing that I do seem to be lacking is a good solar soil heater... even under black plastic it still is barely at 50 degrees.

 

[hunt4570]

Plow layers have long been a problem no matter what you use. They keep finding ways to dig deeper and deeper, but after a certain point the soil isn't worth planting in anyways.
That may be exclusive to New England however, I've seen pictures of what some of you farther out have to work with. As I've said before, I can understand why farmers moved west 150 years ago.
I have both plow/harrow, and a TSC (Countyline) tiller. I also built a bedding implement so that I can raise the soil up another 4 inches after tilling or plowing.

The one thing that I do seem to be lacking is a good solar soil heater... even under black plastic it still is barely at 50 degrees.

Here in South Carolina all I have is dirty sand, almost beach sand! So now I’m down to just a disc and a harrow to level things off although I’ve pretty much given up on planting anything anymore cause nothing grows anyway.Still have my garden and a little walk behind tiller , I can augment that with my compost.

 

[Jstpssng]

Here in South Carolina all I have is dirty sand, almost beach sand! So now I’m down to just a disc and a harrow to level things off although I’ve pretty much given up on planting anything anymore cause nothing grows anyway.Still have my garden and a little walk behind tiller , I can augment that with my compost.

You grow good pine, though. :thumbsup:

 

[Oldpath05]

Doe a deer, a female deer..
They're the ones you want to kill
Slice her up in to some steaks
That you put out on the grill
Oh you know they taste so good
Just the way you knew they would
Which will bring us back to doe a deer.....

:thumbsup: I watch it every year. How how you at deer burgers?

 

[Oldpath05]

Plow layers have long been a problem no matter what you use. They keep finding ways to dig deeper and deeper, but after a certain point the soil isn't worth planting in anyways.
That may be exclusive to New England however, I've seen pictures of what some of you farther out have to work with. As I've said before, I can understand why farmers moved west 150 years ago.
I have both plow/harrow, and a TSC (Countyline) tiller. I also built a bedding implement so that I can raise the soil up another 4 inches after tilling or plowing.

The one thing that I do seem to be lacking is a good solar soil heater... even under black plastic it still is barely at 50 degrees.

Never heard of that problem, I always thought plows had a way to set depth. I wonder which way is cheaper.

 

[Jstpssng]

Never heard of that problem, I always thought plows had a way to set depth. I wonder which way is cheaper.

They do, but still create that plow layer. Every time that you plow at the same depth you're compacting what's below the plow depth. That's why the big farmers use sub soilers, aerators, and other cool toys-
I mean tools.