Dealer Mishap or intentional??

   / Mishap or intentional?? #21  
I suspect they will do everything they can to make it right. I think my title was a bit misleading for some based on responses. I don't know if I adequately described just how great they have been to work with. I would put them on a list of about three dealers I've done business with that didn't make it painful. It is something I always took great pride in with my business, so it is nice to see others do the same. I'm not sure about everyone else's location, but central Iowa seems to be very cut throat when it comes to auto, powersports, and ag. Most dealers aren't worth your time because they play a very aggressive "used car salesman" game with you. I enjoy the process of car shopping, but I've been a couple places where even I couldn't get away quick enough.

Please consider entering your "central Iowa" location in your profile.
Until this post, I (and others?) have been wondering just where in the USA you might be.
 
   / Mishap or intentional?? #22  
And if you would have brought up the discrepancy at the time it could have been corrected immediately without all the drama of a 努alk out?

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"the drama of a walk -out" ??

Where did the OP state that he actually created the "drama" of a walk out?
 
   / Mishap or intentional?? #23  
I guess different people experience different life realities. With some, everything works out without even trying. When they order the wrong thing, the mistake even turns out to be right in the end!

ME, I have to be hyper vigilant in everything I do, or it will always go wrong.
 
   / Mishap or intentional?? #24  
I guess different people experience different life realities. With some, everything works out without even trying. When they order the wrong thing, the mistake even turns out to be right in the end!

ME, I have to be hyper vigilant in everything I do, or it will always go wrong.


Kind of like ordering a pork chop and getting a ribeye?
 
   / Mishap or intentional?? #25  
Yes, haha, round and round emails. It痴 all good though. In case you weren稚 aware email communication is the best way to be able to go back and reference previous conversation. By no means does it fully replace speaking, but it provides a nice record of discussion. For example, my email to the sales rep yesterday (because it isn稚 an urgent matter and they need time to need feel like a deer in the headlights) addressed that I 努as concerned the tractor was missing features that should be found in the SE (with examples). I asked if it was indeed an SE model since it seemed to be missing a good chunk of those features. Funny enough the rep responded last night and acknowledged fault for the mistake because I also happened to include the previous email where I verified she was selling me an SE. I get it, you can稚 possibly know the whole story. But keep in mind, as previously stated, I come from a very similar working background. I know all the little things that can and do go wrong, as well as how to best avoid them. The best customer is someone who doesn稚 beat you up on price, show up all the time to chat, constantly call, and generally just be that itch that won稚 go away. Email is great for both parties. You have record of conversation, and it allows one to recap the conversation if they have forgotten where things were at (especially nice for the salesperson and management). It also prevents a he said she said moment, which undoubtedly turns the relationship sour. Was a mistake made? Yes. Am I pissed? No, but I would like to have an adequate remedy provided. I知 not demanding that they take the tractor back. I know what parts mattered to me on the SE and will happily take those being installed and the rest forgotten.

Your message confused me and if your emails were anything similar i can see why there was confusion and not sure I buy the shoot to intentional notion. Yes email is great, my job consists of nothing but emails so I got you there. But on a large purchase usually wise to show up at some point and go line by line, just my two cents.
 
   / Mishap or intentional?? #26  
My experience has been that many sales people have little knowledge of what they sell. I do my homework to understand what I am buying. I have had too many experiences where I had more knowledge of the product, features, and add ons than the salesperson. That is just the world we live in.
 
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   / Mishap or intentional?? #27  
My experience has been that many sales people have little knowledge of what they sell. I do my homework to understand what I am buying. I have had too many experiences where I had more knowledge of the product, features, and add ones than the salesperson. That is just the world we live in.

Here's the truth, there is not a lot of money in being a retail salesman anymore. For instance at a car dealer there probably is one maybe two guys that make some good chicken the rest dont. And often times you these types of salesman bounce from one sales job to the next. And you are right often times they dont know anything beyond basic items. which has its good and bads. But if you were to pay a salesman the money to keep good ones at say most retail sales locations, the price would jump considerably.
 
   / Mishap or intentional?? #28  
Yes, haha, round and round emails. It痴 all good though. In case you weren稚 aware email communication is the best way to be able to go back and reference previous conversation. By no means does it fully replace speaking, but it provides a nice record of discussion. For example, my email to the sales rep yesterday (because it isn稚 an urgent matter and they need time to need feel like a deer in the headlights) addressed that I 努as concerned the tractor was missing features that should be found in the SE (with examples). I asked if it was indeed an SE model since it seemed to be missing a good chunk of those features. Funny enough the rep responded last night and acknowledged fault for the mistake because I also happened to include the previous email where I verified she was selling me an SE. I get it, you can稚 possibly know the whole story. But keep in mind, as previously stated, I come from a very similar working background. I know all the little things that can and do go wrong, as well as how to best avoid them. The best customer is someone who doesn稚 beat you up on price, show up all the time to chat, constantly call, and generally just be that itch that won稚 go away. Email is great for both parties. You have record of conversation, and it allows one to recap the conversation if they have forgotten where things were at (especially nice for the salesperson and management). It also prevents a he said she said moment, which undoubtedly turns the relationship sour. Was a mistake made? Yes. Am I pissed? No, but I would like to have an adequate remedy provided. I知 not demanding that they take the tractor back. I know what parts mattered to me on the SE and will happily take those being installed and the rest forgotten.

I agree email is your friend in this circumstance. Even if you signed the papers, with all the written communications you likely could get out of that contract under a legal theory called fraudulent inducement. So I disagree with the other posters that say “it’s your fault... once you signed the contract it’s yours.” What you received is not what you were promised. It’s a lot harder to prove that when the communications are all verbal.
 
   / Mishap or intentional?? #29  
I agree email is your friend in this circumstance. Even if you signed the papers, with all the written communications you likely could get out of that contract under a legal theory called fraudulent inducement. So I disagree with the other posters that say “it’s your fault... once you signed the contract it’s yours.” What you received is not what you were promised. It’s a lot harder to prove that when the communications are all verbal.

legally speaking once you sign a contract prior emails mean nothing, so yeah technically and legally once you sign its your fault sorry. Now logic and a business doing the right thing could/should kick in. Email would only be your friend is if you could use the emails to prove the business was deceptive, but in this case you signed the contract with X delivered is what it is at that point.
 
   / Mishap or intentional?? #30  
Looks like OP got back with dealer and hopefully will reach a successful conclusion to happiness of both parties. And just want to say congratulations on your new tractor.

JK22: talked about fraudulent inducement by the dealer, which is incredibly hard to prove in court. However, most fraud occurs not by dealers, but actually by the buyer's of a tractor.

I just purchased a Kubota GR2120 last month, and used my wife's credit report for the 0% financing. I worked overseas for 22 years, and had no credit report available in my name. I joked with the manager, this is not an attempt at fraud, in using my wifes credit. Which initiated a long conversation about how tractor dealers are defrauded by customers on a continuous basis.

So much fraud is occuring, that tractor dealerships are receiving special training by the Corporate office to spot and handle possible fraud. In most cases its identity theft, where the buyer is using fake ID's and stellar credit of another person in the community, to do the financing and purchase agreements. They pickup the tractor and drive off before anything is even suspected. Leaving the dealer on the hook for a stolen tractor.
 

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