Think you own Private Property? Think again

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This is all very disturbing but it is consistent with the government position that all the wildlife, water and air belongs to the government.

In at least some states...state laws precede federal laws based on a plethora of judicial proceedings, writs and rulings...

 

[Tinhack]

I didn't see where the circumstance of the tracking device on a vehicle was mentioned. The tracker could have been a requirement of a court. Such as terms of release from confinement or for probation. This happens all the time for certain "conditions". I won't go into it here because we just don't know.

If the placement was covert, the guy could have been under surveillance by a police agency. If the car was parked in a public space, there's no right to privacy. All bets are off. The guy was lucky it wasn't a bomb! :laughing:

And if you own a GM vehicle with On-Star and/or a factory mapping display, you're already being tracked. Heck, your phone is tracking you too. :confused2:

 

[Industrial Toys]

It was another case that I mentioned, unrelated to this case. I think it was on Lennos (sp?) law.

I started looking for it, and quickly found this instead.

GPS Tracking Without Warrants Ruled Legal - YouTube

I am personally more disturbed by the fact that you can be charged for removing, the probably unmarked device, more so than the placing of it.

 

[shooterdon]

If I ever find a game camera on my property I will call the DNR. If they say it is not theirs, I will send them an email to confirm the discussion, and remove the camera. Pretty simple to solve IMHO.

 

[newbury]

Something is not right here; The Open Fields doctrine, as I recall, applied to what you could observe from outside the property or within the public air space. These guys had to trespass in order to install these cameras. If trespassing does not apply to game wardens who are not at the moment observing a violation, then I am not aware of such a ruling. There is something called "trespass of necessity", which will allow law enforcement to enter public property to apprehend a fleeing suspect, or for fire fighters to gain access to a fire, but I don't see this being applicable here. And you can't remove a tracking device from your vehicle? Even if they had a warrant, it sounds pretty iffy to me.

I'm not a lawyer but I slept with one last night.
There is the "Open Fields Doctrine"

Here's a good pp show:
https://olemiss.edu/depts/ncjrl/pdf/Oct%204-7-2010%20comp%20search%20and%20seizure/Divider%202%20-%20Protected%20Interests%20(Troy).pdf
For those that don't follow links:

open field need be neither 蜿継en nor a 邏*ield as
those terms are used in common speech. For
example . . . a thickly wooded area nonetheless
may be an open field . . . .
謫｢or most homes, the boundaries of the
curtilage will be clearly marked; and the
conception defining the curtilage as the area
around the home to which the activity of home
life extends is a familiar one easily
understood from our daily experience.

So what's inside your house and the immediate vicinity might be protected, but that's about it.
And since many cams have sim cards which will probably send photos immediately make sure you don't shoot the cam immediately, circle around for a while to make sure there isn't another cam monitoring, then plan an attack.
I'd probably just cut the tree down. My tree, my property.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Did you get written consent? :laughing:

And is that required every time or is there a blanket form?

 

[Sigarms]

If I ever find a game camera on my property I will call the DNR. If they say it is not theirs, I will send them an email to confirm the discussion, and remove the camera. Pretty simple to solve IMHO.

If something is left on your property without the owners identification on said object, why would you call the DNR? If someone has the gonads to intentionally leave something on your property without identification, why should the owner be responsible for trying to find out who left said object on your property?

Only thing I ever found on my property was a tree stand I knew nothing about. Called the neighbor, it wasn't his (didn't think it was as I know he'd ask first). Tree stand no longer there.

 

[ruffdog]

I guess I'd better look for cameras the next time I take a leak out there...............nah, I don't care. If I do see a camera, I hope I can get the critter pics off of it.:laughing:

 

[ruffdog]

You can bet that the feds will be crawling all over northern Virginia after a military Huey was hit by ground fire.

Air Force helicopter hit by bullet while flying over Virginia - CBS News

 

[lilranch2001]

I hope they catch the SOB